Race Report Thread
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby Xplora » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:06 pm
I am calling it - the Rookwood Criterium as it was put on will bring more people into bike racing than any other bike event in Sydney. Very friendly, inviting, with a challenging course.
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby queequeg » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:43 pm
Nah, I just got myself a new bike. The green was impossible to miss though!Strawburger wrote:Yes, that is me.queequeg wrote:
The green de rosa? If so, you pulled up next to me at the finish. I must say, it's a pretty close match to the NWSCC green
Hehehe, you fishing for a frame swap?
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby Xplora » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:15 pm
I think this might've been my last race in B, and a great race it was! Our club had 6 in the field of 30 to 35 and had a mission to attack the race. From the roll out we were in breaks, bridging breaks, surging or shutting it down. I was still smarting from a fortnight ago when I doubled the wattage after some soft laps at the start and didn't get my mojo back. I sat in early while team mates absorbed the workload, running tempo on the front. Our kit is quite bright so it is obvious when we are setting up moves, and I think the bunch could see we were working together and did not want to die wondering what we would do. Made for a great night with lots of attacking.
I got on the front for a couple laps at the end while our man was running a break but they didn't quite have the legs, so I became the sometime lead out for the bunch. I snuck off the front and had 10 metres but almost collected an A grader who wasn't paying attention. I lost a pedal stroke at the wrong time, but managed to keep my 46km solo going around the final bend, jumped to the 13 cog and watched eon pass me like I was stopped at 50kmh lol
Club win, almost picking up 3rd place too! I have been focusing on building fitness rather than wins and I think now might be the time to move up, with a couple other friendly faces coming up at the same time. I got smoked at Rookwood on the weekend but I was a bit smashed before I started. I won't build the legs unless I get amongst it!
Hope queequeg posts his debut
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby biker jk » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:48 pm
Handicapper error.Xplora wrote:
Hope queequeg posts his debut
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby ft_critical » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:39 pm
Are you racing then JK?biker jk wrote:Handicapper error.Xplora wrote:
Hope queequeg posts his debut
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby biker jk » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:49 pm
Only vicariously through reading this thread.ft_critical wrote:Are you racing then JK?biker jk wrote:Handicapper error.Xplora wrote:
Hope queequeg posts his debut
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby vander » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:34 pm
If you got smoked at Rookwood dont go up just yet. While it was a solid race it was too hard according to the people I know in it. If you go to A grade now on a tough race you will get dropped everytime and it will be that way for a while. Win a race or 2 first, otherwise you will find out the difference between the top of A and B grade is massive.Xplora wrote:Marconi B grade
I got smoked at Rookwood on the weekend but I was a bit smashed before I started. I won't build the legs unless I get amongst it!
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby Strawburger » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:50 pm
vander wrote:If you got smoked at Rookwood dont go up just yet. While it was a solid race it was too hard according to the people I know in it. If you go to A grade now on a tough race you will get dropped everytime and it will be that way for a while. Win a race or 2 first, otherwise you will find out the difference between the top of A and B grade is massive.Xplora wrote:Marconi B grade
I got smoked at Rookwood on the weekend but I was a bit smashed before I started. I won't build the legs unless I get amongst it!
Although I found rookwood hard, it was a comfortable hard. There is no chance finding me in A any time soon for the exact reasons Vander points out.
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby Xplora » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:49 pm
You'll keep JK. NWSCC accepting new members
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Race Report Thread
Postby queequeg » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:41 pm
Had my debut in D-Grade with NWSCC. When I rocked up to sign in, new race licence receipt printed on paper and the brand new Cervelo with matching helmet & shoes, the guy at the desk suggested that there was no way I was D-Grade as I looked too "Pro". After convincing him that it was in fact the first time I have ever raced, he said "Ok, but if you place you're going up"
We had about 8 guys from NWSCC in D-Grade, including a few other first timers. I did a few warm up laps and had a go at a couple of sprints, which just confirmed that I am not a sprinter.
We had an initial plan of sorts, which was to control the pace and with about 4 laps to go for the breakaway and run a rolling pace line and destroy the bunch.
Easier said than done I guess. We were up the front for the entire race taking turns, and I had some big spells out the front trying to motivate the bunch to up the pace. A few riders from other clubs tried to break free, but someone from NWSCC shut them down each time.
Coming into the last few laps, a couple of riders went off the front and nobody was chasing. I had plenty of legs so I chased from 6th or 7th and just hung on the first riders wheel till another rider shot up the inside. I just swapped from one wheel to the other and went with him. He lasted about 1 minute and I was on my own again, way out in front. So far in front that I almost caught C-Grade, so when the bell went I initially thought it was for them, not D-Grade. I then got stuck behind them on the first turn and the D-Grade bunch closed down the gap. What I should have done was sneak up the inside of C-Grade and used them as a road block, but that will have to be for another day!
I put the hammer down on the back straight, but I went wide on the final turn into the home straight and I saw Des (one of my team mates) going down the inside for the sprint. I gave it everything I had but just couldn't match his legs in the last 50m and he crossed a couple of bike lengths in front of me. I grabbed 2nd place, which I'll happily take!
Coming around the other side after the finish I was given some encouragement in the form of "See you in C Grade". Fair enough, I was never outside the top 10 and there was nobody in the bunch that really made a serious attempt to go with me. Des was on my wheel and took advantage of my wide turn. Lesson learned, but he took a well deserved win for smart racing.
NWSCC clean sweeped D-Grade and made up the bulk of the top 10. As a result there are a few promotions to C-Grade next week. We should have a good sized group causing pain again. I have no idea what to expect in C. I better wear different socks next week because I might be a marked man, and Xplora might cop an earful about "first time racers" in D-Grade
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby vander » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:07 am
Up to you if you heed the advice. I can tell you when I went to A grade I could comfortably be off the front of B grade the majority of the race. I still battled in my first few A grade races. The people that have successfully stepped up did the same. Another perspective for you in power terms. You did 340W for the last lap and was happy with that. In A grade I have averaged 330W that for a race.Xplora wrote:I have won my races in B, I haven't specifically targetted "wins" as a goal for a while as I'm in base training phase and supporting our riders in the new club (NWSCC). I've been doing a ton of attacking lately and it eventually becomes ridiculous because you destroy your opposition, and I'm fairly wary of the title Sandbagger
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby Bluejay87 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:31 am
I wasn't there so maybe I am missing something, but I don't really understand why it was so popular and sold out it an hour online? From the reports I've heard it sounds like the surface was pretty bad. Is it just the novelty factor of racing somewhere new and different?Xplora wrote:
I am calling it - the Rookwood Criterium as it was put on will bring more people into bike racing than any other bike event in Sydney. Very friendly, inviting, with a challenging course.
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby Xplora » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:16 am
Congrats Quee, very impressive first effort.
Hear what you are saying vander. Still copping pressure lol
Bluejay, novelty is a big thing. Support the scene! Racing should expand but we are losing races and venues!
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Re: Race Report Thread
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby Xplora » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:44 am
It's a tough call, plenty of strong legs can't time a race to save themselves, quee was damn unlucky to not be 100m down the road when he crossed the finish line. Live and learn. We'll work on some cornering
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Re: Race Report Thread
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Re: Race Report Thread
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby queequeg » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:12 pm
Yes, I was strong out there, but I didn't win because I made a few mistakes. I probably could have gone solo 4 laps from the end and avoided a sprint, but my aim was to learn something, not build a bad reputation. I need to work on my cornering, which I was overly cautious on as this was only my second ride on the new bike and I am not used to it yet. I thought the tyres might let go, or the pedals strike the ground (first time on SPD-SL), so I am sure I lost 5 seconds on every corner.
I won't be jumping off the front in C. I need to learn some tactics.
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Re: Race Report Thread
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby queequeg » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:25 pm
ok, you just say whenXplora wrote:The tactic is "Throw The New Guy In The Hurtbox". Half a dozen laps off the front and sit in for the sprint. Job done.
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby vander » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:27 pm
Rookwood for me was one of the places I learned to ride a bike. I always said I would love to race around there. The race didnt let down. The best thing in a race is good competition, doesnt really matter what course if the competition is good. Saying that I like a sketchy bumpy course makes things fun for me. There is a nice little climb that is perfect for a crit. First few laps you dont notice you are going uphill but by the end it really hurts, perfect crit climb. There is a long finishing straight with a kicker at the end which is great for a sprint. The corners in the dry would be very fast and safe (they werent too bad in the wet). All in all great course, the competition was awesome.Bluejay87 wrote: I wasn't there so maybe I am missing something, but I don't really understand why it was so popular and sold out it an hour online? From the reports I've heard it sounds like the surface was pretty bad. Is it just the novelty factor of racing somewhere new and different?
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby jules21 » Sun May 03, 2015 8:28 pm
st.1 ITT - 12.5km, 19:04, 39.2 km/h. finished 13th, 52 secs. back.
got soaked riding out to the course in Wangoom - at least I got a warmup in though.. thought I might have been faster, caught a couple of riders. no mechanical problems with the TT bike for the first time! not much tactics here, just pinned it on the redline for 19 minutes. 39 clicks is slow for a TT rig over such a short distance, but the course is quite blowy so it feels like you're standing still at some points.
st.2 road race - 51km, 35.8 km/h, finished 26th in bunch.
the road race is the easiest of the 3 stages in this race. i tried a gentle attack on lap 1 of 3, but was quickly swept up. then I was reminded why it's not that easy - crosswinds. big crosswinds. it's only for a relatively short section of the course, a couple of km, that are really exposed to big crosswinds. on lap 2, someone decided to do some damage and strung the bunch out. I was fully anaerobic, desperately hanging onto the wheel in front (which wasn't offering much protection) - I can see the power trace going up to 700w as I battled to stay on. luckily I did. lap 3 was a bit easier as riders waited for the sprint - then it was on, a drag race to the line. I'm a hopeless sprinter so I stayed safely ensconced in the bunch for 26th - still had to lay max. power down to hang on though..
st.3 criterium, Sunday morning, 20.2 km, 36.5 km/h, finished 13th with lead bunch.
the crit is arguably the hardest stage of the Tour - a brutal course around Warrnambool cemetery that includes a sharp hill. again I awoke to wet roads and thought "this is going to be fun!" some people don't like wet crits, they tend to get cancelled at club events. i see opporunity the commissaire asked us on the start line what we thought and I yelled out "harden up!" luckily it didn't really rain, just a touch of drizzle so the roads stayed wet, but no rivers formed.
a few laps and the bunch was riding very tentatively around the corners so I decided to test them out and launched an attack. not a brutal one, just eased off the front but took corners at full speed. I was joined by a couple of guys who are stronger than me and we tried to push on. but we were caught - there are some really strong, punchy riders in our grade and they weren't about to let us roll away. I think we put a few people in difficulty though as the bunch started to whittle down gradually.
from here my legs started to feel the pain. every time we rode up that hill they got softer and softer. eventually I took to just easing off the front bunch and catching back on the downhill - utilising the slowing pace as they entered the next corner. I only had one small rear wheel twitch the whole race, was feeling comfortable in the wet with some fast downhill corners. thankfully we got the 2 laps sign out and I just tried to hang on - which I did, only just.
thanks to some riders getting shelled, I moved up to a final position of 7th overall - thanks to consistency. this Tour is pretty flat and a real rouleur's race, but the hilly crit is the sting in the tail if you're too heavy to go up hills. I'm big enough to handle the winds (just) but light enough to still cling on up hills - this course mix probably suits me the best of the VRS races. I just need to work on my TTing and I could crack top 5 I reckon.
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Re: Race Report Thread
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Re: Race Report Thread
Postby toolonglegs » Mon May 04, 2015 1:30 am
Raced today... 75.4km with an average of 39.8 and 750 meters up and down. Way too fast for a Cat 3 race!. Cat 1&2 had 2 minutes head start and we caught them by half way then left them behind!.
Few young guys who should be racing FFC and not with us oldies, they sat on the front and just drove it... I was happy to finish in the bunch but don't have the form to get up near the front in the last km!.
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