You can imagine my relief when Trek bumped himself up to Div 1 on Saturday. I spent the first 15 min of the Div 2 race trying to find him!Derny Driver wrote:
After being on this forum for a few years now, and being around the bike races for decades, I can say without hesitation that there is not a person registered on this forum who could go anywhere near Matt (Trek52) in a sprint. If you think you could even hold the guys wheel you are kidding yourself. And hes well past his prime too I might add.
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speak for yourself! I can touch 50 km/h in a sprintDerny Driver wrote:After being on this forum for a few years now, and being around the bike races for decades, I can say without hesitation that there is not a person registered on this forum who could go anywhere near Matt (Trek52) in a sprint. If you think you could even hold the guys wheel you are kidding yourself. And hes well past his prime too I might add.
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Postby Xplora » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:23 am
Marconi A grade at the Dragway hockey stick.
I had the most suspicious flat ever yesterday. First northern corner out of the tunnel, my wheel jumps on the bell lap. I was relatively fresh after joining a couple break attempts with Trent and Cru. Anyone who fancies themselves in a break with Cru on a fast day (race average 44kmh) with wind has their work cut out for them. He pulled 200m turns while we might have done 40m. The guy is an animal.
Great race for me, proud of my effort. Still need more race legs but that will come.
Random whinge. Do not come across the track after your race is over. The A break almost T-boned a few inattentive B graders last night. Cru locked up and fishtailed for 7m at 50kmh? Will have a word to the Commissaire, these incidents are getting more common. Pay attention out there.
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Postby trek52 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:07 pm
Last night Marconi A grade 4th
Weird race, just way to fast for anyone to get away. Did a bit early, then sat in, bridged a massive gap, sat in, had a few goes at the end. Tried to sprint but got taken out by a kid on restricted gears ended up 4th.
I am now saying its a crap circuit, just no where to hurt anyone. I will give some examples using power numbers
Overall - Ave 243, NP 330, HR 145
Mid 20min - Ave 192, NP 223, HR 128
Last 20min - Ave 261, NP 377, HR 150
So it shows how easy it is if you sit on.
Some sprint numbers, remembering I got caught up and had to sprint to get back onto the wheel
5 sec 1240, 10 sec 1132, 20 sec 1105 , 30 sec 984
there was prob 5 lengths between me Nash, Bally and Cru 1-4 and I have seen some of their numbers and their peak is not much different (my 30 sec is) so I am glad the 1500w guys werent there
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Postby cerb » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:19 pm
Kids with restricted gears contesting the end of races always amaze me. The amount of spinning required is seriously impressive!
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Postby trek52 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:08 pm
The power numbers come from training peaks.
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Postby vosadrian » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:42 am
1s - 1300W
5s - 900W
10s - 750W
20s - 680W
30s - 610W
Interestingly, I find my average power and normalised power always to be a fair bit lower than other riders I follow and ride with who do similar effort. I am not sure if my power reads low at lower power (unlikely) or I am pretty aero, or an expert wheel sucker. I do make an effort to limit accelerations out of corners and try to maintain speed through corners and not brake much. Often this means I am coming out of corners quicker than others and remain seated as they stand to catch back onto the bunch:
Average power: 177W
20 min av: 194W
Normalised power: 217W
Always surprised how low those numbers are (I typically do average power 200-210W on a 2 hour solo ride), but I must be doing something right in conserving myself when hiding in the bunch. In the two laps in the break I did about 350W when I was on the front and about 220W when I was out of the wind. I think it started as a 6 rider break, and ended up me and one other and then bunch got us. I could not have maintained that power for the 15 minutes of racing left when it was down to two riders. Think I would have been OK with 1-2 more.
I am an average sprinter. I think the key difference between someone like me and Trek52 is the 10-30s power. He maintains the power for a long time where most peak pretty high and taper off quickly.
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Postby gistane » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:18 pm
I bet you I could match him in a sprint and have on many occasions and have probably even beaten him sometimes. I was just too lazy to train before and just always raced and now only back on the bike 1 month after a back surgery and a few years off the bike. It will not be long until I am back in A grade and again trying to beat him in a sprint hahaDerny Driver wrote:jamescbdunn wrote:
After being on this forum for a few years now, and being around the bike races for decades, I can say without hesitation that there is not a person registered on this forum who could go anywhere near Matt (Trek52) in a sprint. If you think you could even hold the guys wheel you are kidding yourself. And hes well past his prime too I might add.
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Postby cerb » Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:06 am
30 of 47km (dnf), 47kph
Racing was hot and hard this week.
It took about 15mins for a break to establish, but when it did, it contained the majority of the usual contenders for the race. They weren't making too much ground, however, the whole pats veg team of 4 riders and, presumably their DS (apparently ex-Drapac DS), were summoned to the front by said DS and the team TT'd off the buch and into the break. At this point, the buch was losing motivation to chase and the break then had ~7-9 riders and over the next 5 mins, put about 20+sec onto us.
At about the 30min mark, my rear wheel was skipping through the final corner (not sure if tyre pressure was too high, or I had weight too far forward) just when a guy chopped in hard on me - almost causing a crash behind. I had a few choice words as I passed him again coming out of the corner, but my speed out of the corner to catch him, carried me to the front of the bunch just as an attack went. So I drilled it and followed. The bunch also followed and there was no gap opening, but at least the pace was up and we'd be pulling in the break! With two team mates seemingly content in the bunch, I figured I might as well spend some energy at the front helping to shut it down and give us a better opportunity to do something later.
I pulled a hard turn and no-one would come though, so ended up being on the front for 1/2 a lap at full throttle. After a number of elbow flicks, someone finally came through to help and I pulled back into 5th wheel. Half a lap later, I was already being flicked through again but I wasn't ready yet. I sat back and let one of the bikbug guys do a longer turn, but when he slowed and noone else came through, I came around him to keep the pace up. However, I could really only offer another 300-400m before flicking the elbow and pulling off.
As the bunch came past, I tried to wind up my speed a bit to jump in, but my legs wouldn't come to the party... the last rider sailed past without me being able to get on and I pulled the pin.
The gap to the break came down considerably during my effort and the subsequent efforts of a few, including my other team mates. It was just enough for a couple more riders to jump across to the break, but not for the bunch to make the catch! The gap then went out again to almost 20sec and looked solid.
The bunch did manage to get the break down to only 3-4sec by the finish line, but this was largely due to the foxing over the last 3 laps in the break.
In retrospect, I probably should have not have done the second turn when I wasn't up for it. That way, I could have done more later in the race and got more riding time at race pace. But hey, I found my limit and it was fun!
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Postby jules21 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:12 pm
I had that a bit on Sat, not when pulling a turn, but bridging up to a break. my HR was bouncing off the rev limiter as I glued myself to the last wheel of about 5. a couple of guys looked at me to pull a turn but I had nothing and knew I needed at least 1/2 a lap to recover. other similarities to your race included the break including a current Drapac DS and my getting chopped up once or twice. similarities end with my race being 6km/h slower
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Postby filipw » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:07 pm
37.4km/h avg
The road works at Koorangang Island are finished and this week-end racing could resume after a couple of months off. On Sunday I lined up with HVMCC to race D grade, 5 laps on beautiful, smooth bitumen. Every lap there were a couple of attacks but the bunch let no one go. A sprint finish it was. 37 something km/h avg. There is always next week Sunday, oh no, wait, it's Valentine's Day.
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Postby cerb » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:31 pm
filip - Valentine's day is a day to be out with the love of your life!
...your bike needs some love and attention afterall!
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Postby Tarquin » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:41 pm
Average 261w, weighted 294w, Garmin showed 304w NP.
I cracked last time up and had to ride tempo to the top losing 45 seconds or so.
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