My fm011 is from dengfu. It's a very, very nice ride. The fm011 looks like a cervelo r series, but i'll probably never find out whether it's like the real thing...jules21 wrote:they're not the same as brand frames. i have a Hong !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !!, i'm happy with it for the price, but it's not as high quality as a more expensive brand frame like S-Works etc.unavailablerequest wrote: anyone is fine simply think they are ultimately from the same source, just different "presentation", weigh your choices on on the looks, price, geometry, specs, trustworthiness.
thats how i accessed mine.
but why bother? just pay few hundreds more and you can get one from your lbs right?
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mine is a nice ride too. but the finish isn't as good as more expensive frames - cable mountings, dropout areas, etc. it's definitely rougher. as it is used for racing, i don't care though.lobstermash wrote:My fm011 is from dengfu. It's a very, very nice ride. The fm011 looks like a cervelo r series, but i'll probably never find out whether it's like the real thing...
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It's better but still pulses from about 15kms to stopping.mattwilkinson wrote:black4tress wrote:I've got a set of Farsports 50mm....been using them for about a year now.
Had similar experience to Lukas with the pulsating rim when braking. They eventually replaced both although took a bit of time to sort out and acknowledge the issue. The replacements were abit better but no where near perfect and its taken about 2k of riding for them to be probably acceptable.
On the plus side, they ride and roll as good as my 303s in terms of spin, minimum flex but at a third of the price.
Maybe they have improved their quality of late ??? who knows...
Btw - they are also nice and polite during pre sales. Post sales although still polite their response times were delayed somewhat.
Did you find the pulsating settled down a bit? Someone on another forum said using better carbon pads can fix the issue
I find that the Reynolds blue work best (with toeing in) as opposed to Zipp yellows or the ones they provided.
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Postby GJM » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:08 pm
Someone in Oz should start a bike building service - minus any attempt to brand build on the bike itself, and minus any sale of other branded bikes themselves - where people simply order in the parts online, and they put it together for you.
Or maybe there already is, and I don't know them.
I'd certainly pay for the service.
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Postby lobstermash » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:08 pm
Over the last couple of years, a number of companies have started direct sourcing Chinese frames and sticking their brand on it; Ribble and Polygon come straight to mind... By buying frames and components in bulk, these guys are able to retail complete bikes (including their profit margin) for about the cost of sourcing the frame and parts yourself. Consequently, the biggest benefits from buying a Chinese frame yourself are the choice of frame design and really cheap custom paintwork. I guess it's also really satisfying to build one up yourself...
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Postby GJM » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:13 pm
Lobstermash - you are no doubt right, but I still think there's a market. But I may well be wrong.
I wouldn't trust myself to do a good enough job of the build. I can ride, but I can't build
If anyone knows anywhere in Melb that does this kind of thing I'd be interested.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby jules21 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:28 pm
and Specialised, and Giant, and..lobstermash wrote:Over the last couple of years, a number of companies have started direct sourcing Chinese frames and sticking their brand on it; Ribble and Polygon come straight to mind...
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Postby Duck! » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:21 pm
Slight difference, Giant own their moulds, and manufature everything bar the raw carbon fibre in-house (and manufacture for others), Spesh are built (and partially owned) by Merida.jules21 wrote:and Specialised, and Giant, and..lobstermash wrote:Over the last couple of years, a number of companies have started direct sourcing Chinese frames and sticking their brand on it; Ribble and Polygon come straight to mind...
To use a well-established brand as a true comparison, try Apollo. They're not a true manufacturer, they're a parts assembler, sourcing generic frames from the major factories, parts from various suppiers & chucking them together.
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Any good?
Thanks
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Postby mitchy_ » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:06 am
yes, and yes. LB are probably the most reputable brand for chinese carbon wheels.schroeds wrote:Hey guys, 38 pages on this thread so apologies if it's been raised before but has anybody used wheels/rims from Light Bicycle co?
Any good?
Thanks
i had a set of their 45mm deep U-shaped clinchers on disc hubs, that got used daily with no issues at all.
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Postby mmc22 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:11 am
Posted this before;schroeds wrote:Hey guys, 38 pages on this thread so apologies if it's been raised before but has anybody used wheels/rims from Light Bicycle co?
Any good?
Thanks
Yeah I have their 45mm U-shaped clinchers laced to Chris King R45 with Sapim C-Xray 20/28h built up locally. Done about 3,000km on them so far.
- Braking is perfectly fine in the dry, no pulsing or grabbing and stop just as easily as alloy rims... maybe 95% of alloy performance.
- No discernible deviation in rim thickness. In the wet they will stop me... but I need to be prepared for it to take a little longer.
- Weigh in about 1350g from memory. Stiffness is excellent, on par with my Campagnolo Bora Ultra Two Tubs (which are 2.5 times the price and 150g lighter).
- Much easier to spin up than my alloys Campagnolo Zondas and hold great in the wind and don't get blown around as much in side winds as the Boras.
The guy at the shop who built them up said they were as good as any carbon rim he's ever seen, but qualified it in saying that he's never seen a perfect carbon rim... even $3K+ lightweights, enve, zipps. He was impressed.
I did maybe 10k on some cheaper (sub $400) BladeX on novatec hubs and they were awful... right from the start had brake track issues with pulsing and kept breaking the nipples on the rear. Eventually the front hub sheared itself when a spoke pulled through it.... and i've effectively binned them after 2 years.
In my opinion spend your money on good quality hubs (the CK 45s are supremely awesome!!, DT Swiss or White Industries also good, even Phil Wood) and spend a moderate amount on the rims... which are likely to have a shorter lifespan than good hubs. Also find a good honest wheelbuilder that can take care of them for you.
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Re: Chinese carbon frame and wheels thread
Postby clydesmcdale » Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:00 am
I use these on my carbon clinchers and they do the job... setup well, no noise and good modulation. Pretty much a cheaper version of Reynolds Blue.schroeds wrote:Another question, what brake pads would you recommend on these rims? I'm told Swiss Stop Black Prince are good, but they're exxy
http://www.this link is broken.au/lifeline-perfo ... pack-of-4/
Have used swisstop yellow, but they're way too hard, leave a yellow mark on the wheel and can heat up the brake track too much
I also like the Campagnolo Red Carbon specific, but they'r a bit expensive... i used them on my tubs
Have heard the Black Prince are good... but happy enough with the blue pads
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Postby jules21 » Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:10 am
+ 1clydesmcdale wrote:I use these on my carbon clinchers and they do the job... setup well, no noise and good modulation. Pretty much a cheaper version of Reynolds Blue.schroeds wrote:Another question, what brake pads would you recommend on these rims? I'm told Swiss Stop Black Prince are good, but they're exxy
http://www.this link is broken.au/lifeline-perfo ... pack-of-4/
these make all the spendy ones look like the scam they are - i feel like i shouldn't be spreading this secret around
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