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component weights

Postby jules21 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:27 pm

anyone weigh their components?

here's a few:
Shimano 6700 Ultegra 53/39 chainset (175mm, no pedals, Stages LH crank arm) - 515g (RH) + 202g (stages) = 717g
Shimano 4650 Tiagra 50/34 compact chainset (as per above, no powermeter) - 565g + 239g = 804g
Quarq Riken 50/34 compact chainset w/powermeter (as per above) - 715g + 267g = 982g

Shimano 6700 and 6620 Ultegra pedals (1 only) - both (each) 158g

using digital kitchen scales.

Quarq is heavy

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Re: component weights

Postby dalai47 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:02 am

jules21 wrote:anyone weigh their components?
Always. 8)

Hanging scale for bikes, 2kg kitchen scale 1g resolution for medium parts and 500g 0.1g resolution scale for light parts.

Most current list of weights

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... 00&t=71888

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Re: component weights

Postby Patt0 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:43 am

I have only weighed the whole system, bike, rider and bag. 106kg when I arrive at work.

Mybe I need CF biton holders.
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Re: component weights

Postby g-boaf » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:41 am

jules21 wrote:anyone weigh their components?

here's a few:
Shimano 6700 Ultegra 53/39 chainset (175mm, no pedals, Stages LH crank arm) - 515g (RH) + 202g (stages) = 717g
Shimano 4650 Tiagra 50/34 compact chainset (as per above, no powermeter) - 565g + 239g = 804g
Quarq Riken 50/34 compact chainset w/powermeter (as per above) - 715g + 267g = 982g

Shimano 6700 and 6620 Ultegra pedals (1 only) - both (each) 158g

using digital kitchen scales.

Quarq is heavy
Now you tell me! You should have posted this a bit earlier, now I have to pull the bike apart! :lol:

Some bits I can tell you immediately, others I'll have to weigh them:

Xentis Squad 2.5SL clinchers- 1135g
Bontrager titanium skewers: 20g each
Pro Vibe 7S stem 110mm: 120g
Specialized Romin Pro saddle 143mm: 160g
Specialized S-Works Carbon Rib Cage bidon holder: 20g

The rest of the bike is:
Dura Ace-9000 53/39 172.5mm (right crank arm)
Dura-Ace 9000 Stages 172.5mm (left crank arm)
Dura-Ace CN-9000 chain
Dura Ace CS-9000 11-25
Dura-Ace ST-9001
Giant TCR Advanced SL3 ISP 54mm frame: 920g according to Giant (thanks BikerJK)
Giant carbon fork: 332g according to Giant (thanks BikerJK)
Giant Contact SLR carbon bars 38cm: 192g
Giant Advanced Road ISP Seat Clamp 40mm
Jagwire Elite Link brake cables
Dura-Ace shift cable set
Planet X Ultra light CNC 7075 alloy brake calipers
Swisstop for Xentis pads
Continental GP4000S II 25mm tyres
Fizik Superlight 2mm Bar Tape - Soft Touch Black
Garmin stem mount
Garmin Edge 800

Total bike weight: 6.6kg.
Rider: 59kg

I have Jagwire Elite Link gear cables, but will only install them when the existing Shimano cables are worn out. Those will save a bit of weight too. If I take the liners out of the tyres, that will also save a bit of weight. Nothing crazy as far as components go, but the bike is pretty light.
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Re: component weights

Postby biker jk » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:18 am

g-boaf wrote:
jules21 wrote:anyone weigh their components?

here's a few:
Shimano 6700 Ultegra 53/39 chainset (175mm, no pedals, Stages LH crank arm) - 515g (RH) + 202g (stages) = 717g
Shimano 4650 Tiagra 50/34 compact chainset (as per above, no powermeter) - 565g + 239g = 804g
Quarq Riken 50/34 compact chainset w/powermeter (as per above) - 715g + 267g = 982g

Shimano 6700 and 6620 Ultegra pedals (1 only) - both (each) 158g

using digital kitchen scales.

Quarq is heavy
Now you tell me! You should have posted this a bit earlier, now I have to pull the bike apart! :lol:

Some bits I can tell you immediately, others I'll have to weigh them:

Xentis Squad 2.5SL clinchers- 1135g
Bontrager titanium skewers: 20g each
Pro Vibe 7S stem 110mm: 120g
Specialized Romin Pro saddle 143mm: 160g
Specialized S-Works Carbon Rib Cage bidon holder: 20g

The rest of the bike is:
Dura Ace-9000 53/39 172.5mm (right crank arm)
Dura-Ace 9000 Stages 172.5mm (left crank arm)
Dura-Ace CN-9000 chain
Dura Ace CS-9000 11-25
Dura-Ace ST-9001
Giant TCR Advanced SL3 54mm frameset
Giant Contact SLR carbon bars
Giant Advanced Road ISP Seat Clamp 40mm
Jagwire Elite Link brake cables
Dura-Ace shift cable set
Planet X Ultra light CNC 7075 alloy brake calipers
Swisstop for Xentis pads
Continental GP4000S II 25mm tyres
Fizik Superlight 2mm Bar Tape - Soft Touch Black
Garmin stem mount
Garmin Edge 800

Total bike weight: 6.6kg.
Rider: 59kg

I have Jagwire Elite Link gear cables, but will only install them when the existing Shimano cables are worn out. Those will save a bit of weight too. If I take the liners out of the tyres, that will also save a bit of weight. Nothing crazy as far as components go, but the bike is pretty light.
Giant claims the TCR Advanced SL frame weighs 920 grams for a size medium and the fork 332 grams.

http://www.roadbikereview.com/reviews/r ... l-frameset

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Re: component weights

Postby g-boaf » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:23 am

Thanks for that. I'll add those.

I haven't weighed the frame and fork, but I know from lifting them when I was building that bike that they feel really light. But as I've said a few times, I wasn't after absolute lightness on that bike, just light, comfortable to ride and dependable for every day riding, which it so far seems to be.

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Re: component weights

Postby jules21 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:31 am

6.6kg is super-light. my bike weighed in at 7.5kg with my Enve 25 tubular composites and DT240 hub wheels, plus spare tub tied on and tail-light. Ultegra 6750 Di2 groupset.

with my Mavic Cosmic Elite aluminium clinchers - 8.5 kg :shock:

my frame is 58cm and is a Hong Fu FM039 full carbon frame and fork.

there's heaps of stuff I could shave weight off - cables, bidon cages, lighter bolts, chop the steerer by 1-2cm (above the stem), lighter seat (Fizik Tundra). I can't be bothered right now though :)

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Re: component weights

Postby biker jk » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:39 am

g-boaf wrote:Thanks for that. I'll add those.

I haven't weighed the frame and fork, but I know from lifting them when I was building that bike that they feel really light. But as I've said a few times, I wasn't after absolute lightness on that bike, just light, comfortable to ride and dependable for every day riding, which it so far seems to be.
Bear-in-mind that the weight for the TCR frame I mention presumably includes the integrated seat post, so to compare to other frames without integrated seat posts you'd need to add the weight of their seat post.

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Re: component weights

Postby g-boaf » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:49 am

jules21 wrote:6.6kg is super-light. my bike weighed in at 7.5kg with my Enve 25 tubular composites and DT240 hub wheels, plus spare tub tied on and tail-light. Ultegra 6750 Di2 groupset.

with my Mavic Cosmic Elite aluminium clinchers - 8.5 kg :shock:

my frame is 58cm and is a Hong Fu FM039 full carbon frame and fork.

there's heaps of stuff I could shave weight off - cables, bidon cages, lighter bolts, chop the steerer by 1-2cm (above the stem), lighter seat (Fizik Tundra). I can't be bothered right now though :)
58cm - that says it all! :) Smaller frame makes the difference. Must be said that the Giant TCR Advanced SL bikes with the ISP and Dura Ace (the old SL1 and SL0) were pretty light straight out of the shop. The SL3 was originally 10 speed Ultegra Di2 and about 7.6kg if I remember right in the medium size. But swap it over to Dura Ace 9000 and get rid of the standard alloy bars for the Contact SLR carbon bars and either the Contact SLR stem or the Pro Vibe 7S stem and you chop off a heap of weight. As far as I'm aware, the SL3, SL1 and SL0 were all the same frame set, just different components and colour schemes.

I wonder just how light the small size TCR Advanced SL must be. :shock: I have seen one and it looked really, really tiny. The thing had some really exxy looking titanium brakes on it as well. :shock:

I'm wary of making any more changes to my bike - it is running well. The wheels were the bit that really cut the weight dramatically - and you feel it too when you accelerate. 300-400g off the frame isn't that obvious, but on the wheels, it feels very dramatic. :shock:

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Re: component weights

Postby Strawburger » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:55 pm

Absolutely! My race bike is bordering on 6.8kg. But the obsession follows through to any bike I build! :)

I also compare claimed weights to actual weights, and see where my build can improve.

Not that 20g will make any difference in getting up a hill faster :lol:
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Re: component weights

Postby Strawburger » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:08 pm

g-boaf wrote:
Xentis Squad 2.5SL clinchers- 1135g
Clinchers? Come on, you can save another 100g with tubs :)

My clinchers are the same weight as yours, with tyres and tubes. Similar as are my aero carbon tubs with wide tyres.
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Re: component weights

Postby cyclotaur » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:54 pm

Here ya go ....but I wish they'd update it !!

http://www.totalcycling.com/en/au/Compo ... /cc-8.aspx
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Re: component weights

Postby warthog1 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:20 pm

I'm seeing a couple of stages here. I thought the consensus was they were fatally flawed. Not so?
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Postby dalai47 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:40 pm

warthog1 wrote:I'm seeing a couple of stages here. I thought the consensus was they were fatally flawed. Not so?
Gateway drug...

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Re: component weights

Postby g-boaf » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:58 pm

warthog1 wrote:I'm seeing a couple of stages here. I thought the consensus was they were fatally flawed. Not so?
I wouldn't buy another one. I fairly much ignore it.

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Re: component weights

Postby warthog1 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:11 pm

g-boaf wrote:
I wouldn't buy another one. I fairly much ignore it.
Thanks.
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Re: component weights

Postby warthog1 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:12 pm

dalai47 wrote:
Gateway drug...
Meaning you get hooked on power measurement but move on to something that works?
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Re: component weights

Postby dalai47 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:14 pm

Exactly.

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Postby mikesbytes » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:16 pm

At the Australian track champs my track bike weighed in at 8.2kg. My road bike that has brakes and gears weighs less :)
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Re: component weights

Postby g-boaf » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:16 pm

Strawburger wrote:
g-boaf wrote:
Xentis Squad 2.5SL clinchers- 1135g
Clinchers? Come on, you can save another 100g with tubs :)

My clinchers are the same weight as yours, with tyres and tubes. Similar as are my aero carbon tubs with wide tyres.
No, it's fine as it is. Don't want to change anything else on it aside from the shift cables when they need changing.

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Re: component weights

Postby Thoglette » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:05 am

jules21 wrote:6.6kg is super-light.
Ah, I don't think so. 2.7kg is super light
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Re: component weights

Postby dmwill » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:02 am

Yup, I keep a running spreadsheet for my bikes with every component.

Handy when you want to change/upgrade something and know what different it will make weight wise.

It's also interesting to see how two of the same components can vary in weight. Had two Selle Italia SLR SuperFlow saddles vary by 28g which seems like a fair bit to me.

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Re: component weights

Postby jules21 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:50 am

warthog1 wrote:I'm seeing a couple of stages here. I thought the consensus was they were fatally flawed. Not so?
the 1st generation Stages were awful and I had endless problems with mine, before finally demanding a replacement. they gave me a 2nd gen one that has been OK so far. the good news is that Stages will apparently replace any and all 1st gen power meters that are causing problems with a new, 2nd gen. one. so they have been pretty good on warranty I reckon.

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Re: component weights

Postby warthog1 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:07 am

Thanks Jules. I don't think I'll bother with power. My best wasn't that good and I'm well past it :( :lol:
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Re: component weights

Postby mikgit » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:33 am

only things I weighed were a couple of seats on our crappy digital scales which may or maynot be accurate (beofre the scale died)
SI flite 1990: 232g
Vetta SL Ti: 215g

did get some hadn scales that also may or maynot be accurate, but give me an idea of the weights
FS bike was 12kg
1 HT at a smidge over 10kg
2n HT at 10.5kg
road bike at 7kg

Since I'm a lardo, they're all plenty light enough for me.
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