Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

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Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

Postby Joeblake » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:10 am

Marvellous Youtube video tries to show that Fabulo cheated by using an electric assisted bike.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/06/ ... kes_119452

Given the amount of publicity, some people actually seem to believe it.

The proof?

Interviewer: "Did any professional cyclist try this on race?"

Interviewee: "The man who gave us this bike said so."

Great stuff.

I'm sold

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby sogood » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:24 am

@velonews: Cancellara calls motorized bike claims ’stupid,’ as UCI looks at scanning bikes http://bit.ly/bohm0Y
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Postby Chaderotti » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:24 pm

Cancellaras acceleration did look pretty unnatural....
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Postby drubie » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:40 pm

Chaderotti wrote:Cancellaras acceleration did look pretty unnatural....
Meh - awesomely strong dudes with enormous legs like tree trunks do that to me on a regular basis on Saturday afternoon. It kinda looks weird because he can do it seated without rocking the bike.
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Postby JV911 » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:57 pm

Chaderotti wrote:Cancellaras acceleration did look pretty unnatural....
no, it looked unreal!

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Postby WonkyWheels » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:03 pm

Isn't that Cancellara's style, he has his seatpost slightly lower than usual so he can put the power down while seated.

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Postby Uncle Grumpy » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:19 pm

That's really funny, except some muppet would believe it.

Facts:

1. An electric motor hidden in the bike would likely put out a maximum of 500W.

2. Each one of Cancellara's legs can put out 146kW. That's 292 times the power output of the alleged electric motor.

3. This happens while the other leg signs autographs or plays chess.

Therefore, the installation of a motor on his bike would be pointless and Fabian would generate enough power to actually fry that motor. So unless you see sparks comming out of his BB shell, there is no motor. You might see smoke coming out the BB shell, that is because Fabian Cancellara can generate enough power to evapourate grease and has been known to spin fast enough to brinnel ceramic bearings. Fabian Cancellara is the Chuck Norris and Dalai Lama of cycling rolled into one.

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Re: Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

Postby rustychisel » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:23 pm

dumb, unsubstantiated, and there's a technique which allows powerful riders to accelerate to sprint speed whilst seated. As it happens, it can catch the unwary riders and create a gap - quickly. For a rider of Cancellara's class and power, that was the end, full stop. He was gone. Incidentally, did anyone spot the so called suspicious hand movements as anything other than a rider might make when shifting position or moving the hands slightly on a bumpy road. I call bumpf.

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Re: Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

Postby mianos » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:23 pm

Not power totals, they need to be additive as it would most likely to assist, but even the most basic calculations of power not to mention the battery requirements make this a joke. Even that gearing system, tiny gears and 90% would lose half the power before it got to the crank..

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Re: Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

Postby WonkyWheels » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:26 pm

Yeah, from the demo the motor is very weak. 90rpm while the wheel is off the ground is a toy motor. Add the weight of a 70kg rider + bike and it would struggle to even move up any sort of incline.

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Postby drubie » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:28 pm

Uncle Grumpy wrote:That's really funny, except some muppet would believe it.

Facts:

1. An electric motor hidden in the bike would likely put out a maximum of 500W.
2. Each one of Cancellara's legs can put out 146kW. That's 292 times the power output of the alleged electric motor.
3. This happens while the other leg signs autographs or plays chess.

Grumps
No, no, no.

When the electromagnetic clutch is engaged, but Cancellara is pedalling, he's generating more power than the motor, so the battery is receiving current not draining (so the motor turns into a generator).

This this case, the battery would in fact overheat, catch fire and melt the seat tube
:lol:

(however, Jens Voigt doesn't need a seat tube to ride people off his wheel)
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Re: Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

Postby Joeblake » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:39 pm

Nobody has asked the obvious question ...

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Why does Fabullara wear a black helmet???

Because, of course, that absorbs heat from the sun and the bodies of the riders in the peloton, and with the tiny Peltier device inside his helmet, this generates electricity to power the motor. This way he doesn't need a battery. And how does the power get down to the motor? Have a look in his ear. It's a power lead disguised as an radio earpiece cord. Really, the earpiece has been surgically implanted in his skull, to reduce the aerodynamic drag.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby trailgumby » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:43 pm

Uncle Grumpy wrote:2. Each one of Cancellara's legs can put out 146kW. That's 292 times the power output of the alleged electric motor.
Wow. Impressive. That's more than my old '89 Twin Cam 16 Corolla hot hatch. It used to put out 85kW. No grunt below 3,000rpm, but after that it used to take off like it had an afterburner.

No wonder Cancellara's got such good acceleration! :lol:

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Postby Joeblake » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:54 pm

trailgumby wrote: No wonder Cancellara's got such good acceleration! :lol:
Yeah, but his fuel consumption is crap!!

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Postby Uncle Grumpy » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:17 pm

Joeblake wrote:Nobody has asked the obvious question ...

Why does Fabullara wear a black helmet???
A. Because he's freakin' badass.

Word.

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Re: Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

Postby hannos » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:20 pm

Joeblake wrote:Nobody has asked the obvious question ...

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Why does Fabullara wear a black helmet???

Because, of course, that absorbs heat from the sun and the bodies of the riders in the peloton, and with the tiny Peltier device inside his helmet, this generates electricity to power the motor. This way he doesn't need a battery. And how does the power get down to the motor? Have a look in his ear. It's a power lead disguised as an radio earpiece cord. Really, the earpiece has been surgically implanted in his skull, to reduce the aerodynamic drag.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Are you insinuating he's a...


ROBOT???
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Re: Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

Postby Uncle Grumpy » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:24 pm

trailgumby wrote:Wow. Impressive. That's more than my old '89 Twin Cam 16 Corolla hot hatch. It used to put out 85kW. No grunt below 3,000rpm, but after that it used to take off like it had an afterburner.
I hear ya. Shhh, don't tell anyone, but I'm also a knuckle dragging bogan street machiner. The worked 360 in my Chrysler has a stupid cam that does nothing until 3,000. Anything under that it just thumps and pings and scares small children.

I modelled the motor's specs using an analysis of Cancellara's quads.

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Postby drubie » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:25 pm

Uncle Grumpy wrote:The worked 360 in my Chrysler has a stupid cam that does nothing until 3,000. Anything under that it just thumps and pings and scares small children.

I modelled the motor's specs using an analysis of Cancellara's quads.
The slightly worked AMC 360 in my Jeep was modelled after Cadel Evans - never gets above 1500rpm and is crook 3 weeks out of 4. :twisted:
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Postby toolonglegs » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:44 pm

John Lewis wrote:Gruber Assist motor. Good for 200W. Wouldn't be worth the trouble.
Wouldn't be worth the trouble....with an extra 200w I would easily win Paris Roubaix...very easily!!!.
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Postby Joeblake » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:14 pm

hannos wrote:
Are you insinuating he's a...


ROBOT???

I guess that depends where the power cord is plugged in. :roll: :wink:

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Re: Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

Postby Chuck » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:27 pm

Uncle Grumpy wrote:Fabian Cancellara is the Chuck Norris of cycling
I thought you liked the guy :mrgreen:
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Postby Spork! » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:53 pm

This thread delivers. :D

ps: he's not a robot, he's a lizardman from the dark side of the moon.

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Re: Cancellara Accused of Battery Doping

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:11 pm

Don't like the bloke but come on....

Chems are bad enough but methinks the first bloke busted using this will get lynched by the peloton.

I reckon maybe it's about time the dopers were catered for, Tour le smack anybody?

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Postby toolonglegs » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:21 pm

Cancellera's bike would have been weighed...if it had been 9 or 10 kgs alarm bells would have rung.If it had been super light before battery motor added alarm bells would have gone off just by looking at the bike.
He didn't have a motor...he is just a machine.

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