fat and old wrote:
I didn't think banning cyclists from anywhere was the point being made? My understanding of Colin's gripe was all cyclists (well, actually him ) would be judged based on the actions of the twats he saw on the PSP?
Yes I went off on a tangent. I do that sometimes.
I was talking about an incident that happened in my neighbourhood and which has added fuel to the fire with regards to cyclists using a particular road here (despite the fact the location was only incidentally connected to what happened). 'They' want us banned from it, and by extension, from all roads with speeds above 50kph.
As a result of this incident, a few local cyclists have expressed the desire for all of us to 'be on our best behaviour' so as to avoid any further criticism. This includes things like suggesting not travelling in large groups, not riding two abreast, keeping as far left as possible to avoid annoying motorists by our mere presence.
This relates to the point being made in the OP that ANY bad cyclist behaviour reflects on ALL cyclists, which as I said annoys me. Not that the point was made, and I accept that it is to an extent true, but that we have the situation in the first place.
The whole business about cyclists stereotyping drivers has absolutely nothing to do with it in my opinion. The subject is only raised as an analogy to illustrate how ridiculous the idea is. If people think it is sensible to rail against cyclists because they once saw one running a red light (or riding through a 'road closed' sign) then I just don't know what else to say to them.