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Australian Cyclists Party
Postby speedhump » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:49 pm
We are trying to get as much support as possible
If you would like to volunteer during the election and/or on Election Day, please message me.
If you would like to assist financially, please check the link below which will also give some info on some of the candidates. We hope you all support us, we represent all cyclists
http://www.pozible.com/project/187169
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby speedhump » Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:48 am
Thanks to those who have supported the Party!speedhump wrote:The Australian Cyclists Party are running candidates in the Upper House for the Victorian Elections.
We are trying to get as much support as possible
If you would like to volunteer during the election and/or on Election Day, please message me.
If you would like to assist financially, please check the link below which will also give some info on some of the candidates. We hope you all support us, we represent all cyclists
http://www.pozible.com/project/187169
We are nearly at our funding target, if you can, please join and/or donate
http://www.pozible.com/project/187169
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby speedhump » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:17 pm
http://australian-cyclists-party-victor ... andidates/
We want your vote! To have any chance of getting a candidate pass the line we need your first preference.
Please message me if you have any questions.
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby SuperSix » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:23 pm
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby speedhump » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:45 pm
That will be released next week, I will let you know then.SuperSix wrote:Who have you done preference deals with?
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby find_bruce » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:04 pm
While there are some themes, if there is a method in the preferences it is not apparent to me.
Eastern Metropolitan
- Australian Cyclists Party Neil Cameron, Shane Bebe
- Voluntary Euthanasia Party
- Greens
- Liberal Democrats
- Australian Labor Party
- Liberal
- Palmer United Party
- Sex Party
- Family First
- Democratic Labour Party
- Australian Country Alliance
- Australian Christians
- Animal Justice Party
- Shooters & Fishers Party
- People Power Victoria / No Smart Meters
- Rise Up Australia Party
- Australian Cyclists Party Nick Burke, Geoff Ballard
- Shooters & Fishers Party
- Voluntary Euthanasia Party
- Liberal Democrats
- Sex Party
- Animal Justice Party
- Greens
- Democratic Labour Party
- Australian Labor Party
- Liberals / The Nationals
- Australian Country Alliance
- People Power Victoria / No Smart Meters
- Palmer United Party
- Australian Christians
- Family First
- Ungrouped
- Rise Up Australia Party
- Australian Cyclists Party Nik Dow, Geoff Cicuto
- People Power Victoria / No Smart Meters
- Animal Justice Party
- Sex Party
- No Names
- Voluntary Euthanasia Party
- The basics rock ‘n’ roll party
- Ungrouped
- Voice for the west
- Greens
- Liberal Democrats
- Democratic Labour Party
- Family First
- Australian Labor Party
- Liberal
- Palmer United Party
- Vote 1 local jobs
- Australian Christians
- Rise Up Australia Party
- Shooters & Fishers Party
- Australian Country Alliance
- Australian Cyclists Party Mark Horner, Arwen Birch
- Sex Party
- Shooters & Fishers Party
- Animal Justice Party
- Liberal Democrats
- Greens
- Australian Country Alliance
- Australian Labor Party
- Liberals / The Nationals
- People Power Victoria / No Smart Meters
- Family First
- Democratic Labour Party
- Palmer United Party
- Rise Up Australia Party
- Australian Cyclists Party Robert Siddle, Troy Parsons
- People Power Victoria / No Smart Meters
- Greens
- Liberal Democrats
- Australian Labor Party
- Sex Party
- Liberal
- Palmer United Party
- Voluntary Euthanasia Party
- Animal Justice Party
- Democratic Labour Party
- Shooters & Fishers Party
- Australian Christians
- Family First
- Rise Up Australia Party
- Ungrouped
- Australian Cyclists Party Richard Bowen, Kathryn Siddle, Marcus Barber
- No names 1
- No names 2
- Sex Party
- Animal Justice Party
- Voluntary Euthanasia Party
- Australian Country Alliance
- People Power Victoria / No Smart Meters
- Greens
- Ungrouped
- Australian Labor Party
- Liberal
- Shooters & Fishers Party
- Family First
- Australian Christians
- Democratic Labour Party
- Liberal Democrats
- Palmer United Party
- Rise Up Australia Party
- Australian Cyclists Party Frank Reinthaler, Nick O’Keefe
- Greens
- Voice for the west
- Sex Party
- Australian Labor Party
- Animal Justice Party
- Democratic Labour Party
- Liberal Democrats
- People Power Victoria / No Smart Meters
- Liberal
- Family First
- Palmer United Party
- Australian Country Alliance
- Australian Christians
- Shooters & Fishers Party
- Rise Up Australia Party
- Australian Cyclists Party Kathy Francis, Colin Charles
- Greens
- Sex Party
- Voice for the west
- Australian Labor Party
- Animal Justice Party
- Democratic Labour Party
- Liberal Democrats
- Liberal / The Nationals
- Palmer United Party
- Family First
- Australian Country Alliance
- Rise Up Australia Party
- Australian Christians
- People Power Victoria / No Smart Meters
- Shooters & Fishers Party
- Vote 1 local jobs
- Ungrouped
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby Summernight » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:54 am
There will be - I recall the ACP employing the same 'preference whisperer' who did the preference deals for the Motoring Enthusiasts Party... Who scored them a senate seat...find_bruce wrote:Group Voting Tickets have now been published. The whole catastrophe is here. The following summarises the Australian Cyclists Party preferences. Please accept my apologies if there are any transcription errors.
While there are some themes, if there is a method in the preferences it is not apparent to me.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victo ... 1ogx7.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Should be an interesting outcome.
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby speedhump » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:25 pm
Victorians, come meet the candidates on a short bike ride (5-6 km) this Sunday! We will meet at Federation Square in Melbourne at 11 AM for a short ride to the Yarra and a place we can stop and have a coffee and have time to chat. We will going at a leisurely pace.
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby fat and old » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:42 pm
No reflection on you Speedhump. Kudos for fronting the forums
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby il padrone » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:00 pm
https://australian-cyclists-party.org/policy-options/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
•That a national inquiry or commission be established to review the efficacy of mandatory bicycle helmet legislation (MHL) based on the experience of the last 20+ years with a view towards recommending its continuation, removal or modification. Based on the recommendations of a recent inquiry in Queensland, we are ready to support the reform of bicycle helmet regulations that would allow adult cyclists the choice of wearing a helmet or not.
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby fat and old » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:54 pm
Cool....my googling isn't up to scratch Little bit subdued, in the best political style, but there.il padrone wrote:There is this policy statement:
https://australian-cyclists-party.org/policy-options/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;•That a national inquiry or commission be established to review the efficacy of mandatory bicycle helmet legislation (MHL) based on the experience of the last 20+ years with a view towards recommending its continuation, removal or modification. Based on the recommendations of a recent inquiry in Queensland, we are ready to support the reform of bicycle helmet regulations that would allow adult cyclists the choice of wearing a helmet or not.
Thanks IP
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby Drizt » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:09 pm
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby speedhump » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:14 pm
There are other Policy Initiatives here http://australian-cyclists-party-victor ... /policies/Drizt wrote:If they waste time / money / effort on mhl stuff over actually important stuff like infrastructure and driver re-education... Well I'll be less inclined to vote for them.
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby Drizt » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:18 pm
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby Strydz » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:35 am
It certainly will be an interesting outcome but it a pity they got into bed with Glen Druery, I understand they want a seat and it would be nice to have a voice but its "gaming" the political system and a seat won in this manner is grubby to say the least.Summernight wrote:There will be - I recall the ACP employing the same 'preference whisperer' who did the preference deals for the Motoring Enthusiasts Party... Who scored them a senate seat...find_bruce wrote:Group Voting Tickets have now been published. The whole catastrophe is here. The following summarises the Australian Cyclists Party preferences. Please accept my apologies if there are any transcription errors.
While there are some themes, if there is a method in the preferences it is not apparent to me.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victo ... 1ogx7.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Should be an interesting outcome.
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby yugyug » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:46 am
Speak for yourself - for me I want it top of the list.Drizt wrote:Glad it's near the bottom of the list (would prefer it wasn't there at all - waste of time as it will never be removed )
Regarding the comments about Glen Druery - I though in the end he didn't work for the ACP? Something I read somewhere recently suggested that ACP had too many objections to his recommendations and he walked?
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby speedhump » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:06 am
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby DavidS » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:33 pm
I understand most people don't want to mark all the boxes but I would say to everyone, have a look at the preference allocation before voting above the line.
Also this is optional preferential, you only have to mark the boxes as far as you want to (minimum of 5). This can be a bit of a trap though. For example, if I don't want the Libs to get in I might not preference them at all and my vote would be exhausted before it gets to them. However, I may not want the Libs in but I might want to express a preference indicating I would prefer a Lib to, for example, Rise Up Australia or the Lib Dems. Not preferencing that far down the ballot may exhaust my vote leaving others to elect a candidate I don't prefer. The counting of proportional representation in a multi member electorate is quite complex and most people have no idea how it is counted. The main message is to allocate preferences as far as you are willing and remember if it gets to the end of your vote and you preference the Raving Looney Party over the Sensible Party, it is the Raving Looney Party who will get your vote (or part of your vote, told you it was complicated).
And now, the best piece of advice you will get all week, because I used to be a poll clerk: vote in the mid afternoon, smallest queues. And, buy a sausage form the primary school, they are woefully underfunded and will remain so no matter who gets in and they really do need your spare cash.
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby find_bruce » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:12 pm
While the headlines focus on the lower house, the upper house shows the Coalition losing 5 seats, Labor losing 3 seats. The Greens only picked up 2 seats, with 6 minor parties - 2 Shooters & Fishers, 1 Australian Sex Party, 1 Democratic Labor Party, 1 Vote 1 Local Jobs, 1 Country Alliance. Labor will need the support of the Greens & 3 minor parties to pass any legislation.
Primary vote for Australian Cyclists Party as follows:
- 1.21% Southern Metropolitan
0.80% Northern Metropolitan
0.75% Western Metropolitan
0.48% Eastern Metropolitan
0.45% Northern Victoria
0.38% South-Eastern Metropolitan
0.37% Western Victoria
0.33% Eastern Victoria
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby DavidS » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:02 am
I'm not totally sure about those numbers of likely elected candidates. With a very large pre-poll vote that will tend to favour those parties who staff the pre-polling centres: ALP, Libs and Greens. Also, although I count a quota amongst the very minor parties in quite a few of these electorates the preference leaking could have an impact. I can't see the upper house being settled until late this week.
Antony Green had a rant about this on the ABC coverage. To some extent I agree that very minor parties getting seats is a bit of a strange outcome. However, it is the will of the electorate, even if they don't know it, after all, if the very minor parties between them get a quota and they cross preference then one of them should get a seat given enough voters lodged a vote for them and expressed their preference for the other very minor parties. The fact is that proportional representation is very democratic but with very minor parties attracting a lot of votes between them this can happen. There are solutions. Firstly, it would be nice if people who vote above the line actually look at where their preferences are going, although it could be made easier by having posters in polling booths showing the preference distribution, which they did when above the line voting was first introduced federally. This is unlikely. Secondly, and far more practical, allow preferencing above the line. A simple solution. Then I think quite a few voters would preference themselves rather than leave it to the parties and their deal making.
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby clackers » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:52 am
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby find_bruce » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:39 am
Article in The Age 'Preference whisperer' Glenn Druery claims victory in Victorian election, says cycling party 'failed' by refusing his adviceclackers wrote:Because Omar wouldn't give Druery pre selection in NSW, Druery stitched up (successful) preference deals for the Shooters instead. War of words on Twitter.
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby speedhump » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:33 am
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Re: Australian Cyclists Party
Postby DavidS » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:57 pm
Good luck, hopefully it creates some interest and we'll see if a difference can be made.
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