Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby Mububban » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:35 pm

Yeah I drove past this arvo and saw the light poles, there did seem to be a lot of them! Hopefully it won't take long to finish the pathway now
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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby Mububban » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:40 pm

Drove past 2pm today, emergency lane of the freeway is blocked off and two guys were visible working at the base of one of the lights
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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby as7431 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:51 pm

Road past on Sat arvo and saw the markings for lights along the old stretch of the path (closer to Reid Hwy underpass). Each one was numbered and the numbered ended at 70. That's a lot of lights :shock:

Hopefully not far away now

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby CXCommuter » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:27 am

as7431 wrote:Road past on Sat arvo and saw the markings for lights along the old stretch of the path (closer to Reid Hwy underpass). Each one was numbered and the numbered ended at 70. That's a lot of lights :shock:

Hopefully not far away now

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It appears this is the main section of lights to be installed -most if not all appear in place along the new section.
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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby CycleSnail » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:08 pm

This has just come to hand...

‘The delay in raising the property fence heights came about almost at the end of the construction due to residents contacting the Local Member and a subsequent site meeting with all.

A number of residents complained about the existing freeway verge being about 1 metre above the level of their back yards (hence reducing the effectiveness of the height of their existing fences) – this was a pre-existing situation caused by the 7 year old development construction “benching” into the road reserve. As Vince advises we agreed to install a row of limestone blocks along part of the fence line to overcome this. While the new PSP has only added a minimal amount to the height behind these properties, it would be clear that the privacy and security of these properties is compromised at present. The Contractor has been liaising with City of Stirling to obtain the required approvals, and while not yet finalised it is close. The Contractor also has approval from the relevant property owners for this work to be done.

This work along with the lighting teams require trade utes/vehicles to be present along the path, otherwise workers would have to walk long distances to access materials and tools ie the delay in opening would be much longer. While we are very aware of the desire of the cycling fraternity to be allowed onto this PSP, we are also aware of an obligation we have to the local residents to ensure their privacy and security is maintained. MRWA are working closely with the Contractor to ensure the fence works are completed so that this project can be handed over the pedestrians and cyclists.

Yes there has been some days when work has not been consistent along the path, but to open one day and closed the next to open the next etc would create even more complaints and look even more inappropriate. Also OH&S Laws do not permit such mixing of work and path users.
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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby rolandp » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:02 am

And yet BWA posted yesterday:
We are all keen to see the opening of the new section of path along the Mitchell Freeway between Erindale and Balcatta Roads. Main Roads Western Australia advise that work is almost finished with minor lighting and fencing yet to be completed. Stand by! #notlongnow #llovetheride

Wonder which group is getting the correct information?

In my opinion, a '7 year old development construction "breaching" into the road reserve' should have been resolved 6.75 years ago.

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby dmwill » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:52 pm

We are in WA....Wait Awhile.

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby redned » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:53 pm

CycleSnail wrote:....the existing freeway verge being about 1 metre above the level of their back yards (hence reducing the effectiveness of the height of their existing fences) – this was a pre-existing situation caused by the 7 year old development construction “benching” into the road reserve. ...
So does this mean that when these residents built their houses, they benched into the road reserve, and now a legitimate use is made of the road reserve its someone else's responsibility to fix it up?

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby as7431 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:25 pm

redned wrote:
CycleSnail wrote:....the existing freeway verge being about 1 metre above the level of their back yards (hence reducing the effectiveness of the height of their existing fences) – this was a pre-existing situation caused by the 7 year old development construction “benching” into the road reserve. ...
So does this mean that when these residents built their houses, they benched into the road reserve, and now a legitimate use is made of the road reserve its someone else's responsibility to fix it up?
Seems no one had the "you know what's" to take on the developer at the time of them stealing the land and so now it is up to the tax payer to fix the problem. I wonder if there is a statute of limitations on such things. If there is, perhaps I can just move my fence a bit and take the extra (council owned) land next to my property. Then after a numeber of years, it becomes mine :P

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby citywomble » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:02 pm

Benching does not mean that the fence has encroached horizontally onto the freeway reserve.

What it does mean is that when the plot was levelled it was levelled to the boundary leaving a small step at the boundary.

The problem is that this has now been compounded by building a path, with public access, very close to the boundary and actually elevating the path above the existing ground level. The combination of public access and the raised path are what has adversely affected the adjacent properties and necessitated the refencing.

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby as7431 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:51 pm

^ thanks, that makes it clear. Hopefully the path will be open soon. I do wonder what the motorists think as they drive past on the Mitchel Fwy not seeing a single cyclist using the path. It 'looks' completed.

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby BaldPatch » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:34 am

Im sure some of the traffic victims sitting in their little road rage cages will be outraged when they look out their windows and see all that expensive cycling infrastructure. :twisted:
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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby Mububban » Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:26 pm

BaldPatch wrote:Im sure some of the traffic victims sitting in their little road rage cages will be outraged when they look out their windows and see all that expensive cycling infrastructure. :twisted:
I do like that quote "you are not stuck IN traffic - you ARE the traffic" :D
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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby CXCommuter » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:41 pm

Noted this morning the lights are up along the northern section up to Reid Highway- progress- a little bit closer to opening maybe
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Postby eldavo » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:01 pm

I suppose jumping on the freeway in peak traffic to travel Erindale to Reid Highway is one way to view the progress this afternoon, maybe even put the bike on roof rack and wear helmet in the car, windows down, bottle holders on the dash, spitting out energy gel tearoffs while shouting abuse at wheel suckers motioning them to pass, mongrels ;)

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby BMac » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:21 pm

eldavo wrote:I suppose jumping on the freeway in peak traffic to travel Erindale to Reid Highway is one way to view the progress this afternoon, maybe even put the bike on roof rack and wear helmet in the car, windows down, bottle holders on the dash, spitting out energy gel tearoffs while shouting abuse at wheel suckers motioning them to pass, mongrels ;)
Should set a good Strava time!

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby eldavo » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:25 pm

I think a crippled war veteran in the neighbouring caravan park could set a faster time hobbling than a car on freeway in peak hours traffic.

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby CXCommuter » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:18 pm

Still waiting for the opening time- how long does it take to install fences :roll:
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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby Thoglette » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:46 pm

CXCommuter wrote:Still waiting for the opening time- how long does it take to install fences :roll:
It's not the work that takes the time, it's getting QA sign off on the paperwork afterwards.

Can't take the fences down until the certificate of completion is issued.
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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby rolandp » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:43 pm

They only finished installing the lights. Bunch dropped off around 2 weeks ago (truck blocked our access) and last lot installed this week.

The new estate in this area was started developing after the PSP development, and these lots are now available to purchase. This including earth works, retaining walls, roads, paths, water, gas, electricity, phones, etc.

It should not take this long to build this PSP, or get what ever approval/set back through.

It will be interesting to see how long the new Hway overpass takes to build.

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby wellington_street » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:15 am

Thoglette wrote:
CXCommuter wrote:Still waiting for the opening time- how long does it take to install fences :roll:
It's not the work that takes the time, it's getting QA sign off on the paperwork afterwards.

Can't take the fences down until the certificate of completion is issued.
I find it difficult to believe that Main Roads has any real QA system in place

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby CycleSnail » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:30 pm

Dear cyclists

Just letting you know that the new section of PSP, from Erindale-Reid in
Gwelup, will be opened by Main Roads WA tomorrow morning.

Please share this information with your communities.

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby CXCommuter » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:35 pm

CycleSnail wrote:Dear cyclists

Just letting you know that the new section of PSP, from Erindale-Reid in
Gwelup, will be opened by Main Roads WA tomorrow morning.

Please share this information with your communities.

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Leanne Pitcher
Media & Communications Consultant
Was worried that the pathway was going to be infested with crickets chirping to themselves amongst the tumbleweeds
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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby worzel » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:46 pm

CycleSnail wrote:Dear cyclists

Just letting you know that the new section of PSP, from Erindale-Reid in
Gwelup, will be opened by Main Roads WA tomorrow morning.

Please share this information with your communities.

Regards
Leanne Pitcher
Media & Communications Consultant
Woohoo! I wonder what time as I should be heading through there about 7am.

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Re: Mitchell Fway PSP - Gribble Rd, Gwelup bypass

Postby rolandp » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:26 am

Interesting observation. I started this topic on 18 Oct 2013 when I noticed pink markings on the PSP.

12 months later, the bypass is opened.

Should MainRoads be bench marking these types of developments to see if other States/Countries do better, or is this the 'norm'?

Looking forward to riding through at 7am where I hope it will be open. But will be prepared to take Gribble Rd if it is not.

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