Another car crashing off the freeway
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Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby rodneythellama » Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:21 pm
I hope the car occupant(s) are OK, but I also hope whoever is at fault loses their license.
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby ploz » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:05 am
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Postby eldavo » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:23 pm
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby SuperSix » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:58 pm
Have you ever crashed a bike?
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby rodneythellama » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:13 pm
Quite simply because I don't want myself or any other PSP users getting wiped out by one of these out of control drivers. You're probably not familiar with this section of freeway. A driver would have to be seriously inept and/or reckless to crash off it. You're right to point out that bike riders can also crash. But the consequences for others are rarely grave.SuperSix wrote:So why are you sick of it? What's it got to do with you?
Have you ever crashed a bike?
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby Baalzamon » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:08 pm
Just think what your reaction would be if you had been next to that vehicle as it's starting to crash. Would you have forced crash yourself to avoid possible impact with an out of control car?SuperSix wrote:So why are you sick of it? What's it got to do with you?
Have you ever crashed a bike?
Quite simply, a mesh fence is not enough protection for vulnerable users. And I'm worried that one day someone will get killed and only then will they wakeup and find that these mesh fences are not enough protection and upgrade them to something that is. There is more than one location on PSP's where there is insufficient protection for cyclists.
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby SuperSix » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:50 pm
And I'm never surprised by drivers taking every opportunity to crash their car.
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby rodneycc » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:51 pm
Sent via Tapatalk so expect the odd typo and mis-posting!
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby uglybob » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:02 pm
so if you've got no idea about the road / safety barriers in the picture above because you don't even live in the state, why bother commenting?SuperSix wrote:No I don't know the road. In Melbourne wire rope barriers are going up along a lot of our freeways. They are excellent for containing wayward vehicles. It sounds like what you need. Maybe start a campaign to put them in.
And I'm never surprised by drivers taking every opportunity to crash their car.
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Postby dmwill » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:53 pm
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby moosterbounce » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:22 pm
I don't know if there is a solution for all road users.
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby eldavo » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:24 pm
P.s. jinx MB, I think there are alternatives but presume it is a dollars per kilometre equation.
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby SuperSix » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:38 pm
My uncle was head of road safety for Vicroads for many years and now consults around the world. I've asked all these questions as I'm also a motorcyclists and he has all the answers and it's all been considered. I guess as long as cars are the default setting in Australia, the wire barriers will stay.
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby Baalzamon » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:44 pm
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby Summernight » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:37 am
I'm interested to know why they would hate it?rodneycc wrote:Just be a little careful taking photos at crash sites (that you are not involved in). Emergency services hate this type of thing ( I know because I work for one!). So just a word of warning.
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby SuperSix » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:54 am
You're dealing with a rather traumatic event in someone's life. What if it was you or your kids in that car. Would you want rubber-neckers taking pics?Summernight wrote:I'm interested to know why they would hate it?rodneycc wrote:Just be a little careful taking photos at crash sites (that you are not involved in). Emergency services hate this type of thing ( I know because I work for one!). So just a word of warning.
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby rodneycc » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:12 am
Cheers Rod.
PS not having a go at the OP just expressing my concern and trying to give the forum some good advice...
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby Summernight » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:39 am
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:48 am
Chillout guys. If you post then you should expect some comment.
The OP implied strongly that cars landing in our space is common place. Not in my considerable experience.
I DO know the route as I have been riding from Bateman to the city via the Kwinana Freeway stretch since even before the particular segment was built. In all In all I have probably ridden the Kwinana freeway route route around 10,000 times spanning four decades. Though I am sure that it has happened a few times, off hand I can recall once seeing any evidence of a car crashing off the Kwinana Freeway and onto the PSP.
However, in that time I HAVE seen many trees and boughs across the paths from winter storms, loose gas bottles left on the paths and tools riding bikes like tools. Last year I was personally present at three cases of riders being down and out along that stretch. None involved cars. If I was to post of being "sick"of anything it is gonna be a number of other hazards before this.
(Yes, I know that out-of-control cars have a greater potential for tragedy than, say, a bike or a loose bit of rubbish or a tool of a rider. But in terms of risk management cars crashing off the freeway are not a biggy.)
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Re: Another car crashing off the freeway
Postby rodneythellama » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:15 am
It seems to me to be a regular occurrence.
My favoured solution is a 3m high concrete wall at the edge of the emergency stopping lane. It would have benefits.other than just keeping vehicles on the freeway. A wall would reduce noise and light pollution and help drivers focus on road hazards.
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Postby eldavo » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:32 am
roller wrote:What the.....?
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