City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Aushiker » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:47 pm
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby archetuthus » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:54 pm
Its not exactly specific but these few articles show that the owners are regulars:Aushiker wrote:
I don't know if this is the business but the comments are not to positive and seem to tie in with what happened. Anyone have anything more specific?
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http://perthvoiceinteractive.com/2013/0 ... r-council/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"“You come here week after week and hurl insults at councillors who are volunteering their time to take this council forward,” she said."
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"Stuart Lofthouse, who operates Greens & Co on Oxford Street, is a regular and vocal attendee of council meetings. He claims council processes lack transparency and that the council often fails to follow its own processes"
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"Sixty-two locals, including diehard Leedy critics Stuart Lofthouse (from Greens and Co) and Debbie Saunders opposed the extension."
And this falls in line with comments made by the mayor.
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby dmwill » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:22 pm
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Aushiker » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:50 pm
and take up a car parking spot at the same timedmwill wrote:Time to make Greens and Co the new coffee stop for bunch rides. They'll love that
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Lizzy » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:19 pm
dmwill wrote:Time to make Greens and Co the new coffee stop for bunch rides. They'll love that
There I was thinking I would have to stop going there - but: nonviolent direct action with cake? Everyone's a winner!
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Clownshoes » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:45 pm
SInce they have been so constructive in their criticism of City of Vincent's plans, I suggest people here leave equally informed comments about their offerings on Urbanspoon :
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby wexford » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:48 pm
Perhaps they're just jealous that Crank'd are getting all the cyclist business
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Red Rider » Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:26 pm
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby archetuthus » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:26 pm
http://www.vincent.wa.gov.au/files/7b1a ... 140722.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Aushiker » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:40 pm
Thanks. Page 54 refers. The comments attachments are interesting reading.archetuthus wrote:The council Meeting minutes are now available if anyone would like to read them
http://www.vincent.wa.gov.au/files/7b1a ... 140722.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby nezumi » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:26 pm
I couldn't help but giggle at this bit:archetuthus wrote:The council Meeting minutes are now available if anyone would like to read them
http://www.vincent.wa.gov.au/files/7b1a ... 140722.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
0.7mm nature strip? So.... single blades of grass then?2.20m wide verge - Comprising a 1.50m wide concrete footpath (existing) and a 0.7mm wide nature strip (to be paved/mulched/planted).
(You give a detail-oriented, compliance person a document and you take your risks )
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby hooman » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:52 pm
If you can't show care, you can't provide good service (as shows in the horrible reviews of their establishment)!
They don't deserve to have a successful cafe. I sure as heck ain't ever going there!
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby archetuthus » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:14 am
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby dispute2.0 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:37 am
Don't read the comments, don't read the comments, don't read the comments *scrolls down* "ah crap"archetuthus wrote:Further to the original stories WATODAY have written a piece as Mr Lofthouse has now set up some signs at his shop:
http://www.watoday.com.au/comment/leede ... zwege.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Aushiker » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:45 am
The comments are better heredispute2.0 wrote:Don't read the comments, don't read the comments, don't read the comments *scrolls down* "ah crap"
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby dispute2.0 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:02 pm
Neil Francis You come across as quite obnoxious in the council minutes that are now out. Instead of acting and speaking as you did, you could have made the argument about poor design at the council meeting. I usually drive now, but was once a regular commuting cyclist who has often had car doors opened into my path and I agree that placing the lanes along footpaths is safer - but this would still require widening the paths, and would still mean losing the parking bays. So I'm not convinced you're really supportive of that. You could also have argued for more parking being created nearby, but you didn't do that either.
http://www.vincent.wa.gov.au/.../7b1acc ... 140722.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm pretty reluctant to go into 50mL now when I've been a regular customer at night - the Luna Cinema's cafe is only a short distance away and also open late.
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50mL That's a shame neil, and if last night was the only interaction i had ever had with council, i could understand your views. Truth is, i have been attending nearly every meeting for the past 7 years. I spend many hours a week reading through reports and emailling council. The frustration that results from this is simply too great to explain. I do this because i care about leederville and don't want to see it ruined like subi or cottesloe. I don't complain when derogatory or sarcastic comments are made about me by the mayor or councillors, i accept the frustration is mutual.
What i don't accept though is being told to leave a meeting for something i simply did not do. I don't accept the verbal abuse and physical abuse inflicted on myself and stuart by an acting director and 2 men who did not identify themselves.i don't accept the subsequent lies that are being told by the mayor and some members of the public and i certainly don't accept the malicious remarks being made by cyclists who are wrongly accusing us of being anti cycling. Stuart doesn't even own a car and uses a bike to get around and i have read countless reports on safety standards and best practice in bike lanes and have questioned council constantly about their failure to comply with the austroads standards.
I cannot make people think of me in any particular way but i do hope that they either listen to the audio of the meeting or read the article in the Voice newspaper which offers the only version that even begins to resemble the truth.
Again, Im sorry you feel like you do but i assure you my actions all come from a place of concern to preserve this community.
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby biker jk » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:13 pm
Research by Alison Lee sought to identify the economic value of replacing car parking with bike parking in shopping strips. The case study in Lygon Street Carlton in Melbourne showed that cycling generates 3.6 times more expenditure. Even though a car user spends more per hour on average compared to a bike rider, the small area of public space required for bike parking suggests that each square metre allocated to bike parking generates $31 per hour, compared to $6 generated for each square metre used for a car parking space, with food/drink and clothing retailers benefiting the most from bike riders.
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Aushiker » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:12 pm
AndrewThe first phase of the City’s Bike Network Plan has commenced! The works will transform key arterial roads and create safer and smarter cycling routes....
Phase 1 - Establishing an east-west connector route across Vincent
» Vincent Street (from Oxford to Bulwer): On-path bike lanes
» Bulwer Street (from Vincent to Palmerston): On-road bike lanes
We are starting with works on the northern side of Bulwer Street, between Vincent and Fitzgerald Streets, and then Fitzgerald to Palmerston. We will then move on to the southern side of the street.
Works will occur 7.00am - 4.00pm, Monday to Friday and will take around 8-12 weeks.
The works will include improvements to the access ramps at intersections for pedestrians and cyclists, the embaying of parking in certain sections of Bulwer Street and the installation of on-road bike lanes between Vincent and Palmerston Streets.
Works on Vincent Street, between Charles and Bulwer Streets, are due to commence on Sunday 24 August, weather permitting.
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby wellington_street » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:27 am
That said, i really dont see any alternative way of providing cycle lanes unless you remove parking completely on one side of the street to avoid the door zone issue.
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby nachoman » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:03 pm
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby nachoman » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:19 pm
Roadworks alert… Oxford Street (Richmond Street to Anzac Road) to create new bike lanes. Works start this Monday 22 September, 7am to 4pm. There will be road closures within the work zone, plus all on-road parking will be banned while the works are in progress. Detours will be in place.
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby nachoman » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:05 pm
Map here
City of Vincent comments here, council minutes
No mention of impact to cyclists, only cars and parking. Seems it is a six month trial. Now cyclists have to move to the footpath to cross Loftus St.
Dept of Transport map indicates it is a local bicycle friendly street (link)
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Hugor » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:41 pm
wellington_street wrote: That said, i really dont see any alternative way of providing cycle lanes unless you remove parking completely on one side of the street to avoid the door zone issue.
From a very interesting article. I'm also opposed to the door zone lanes on Bulwer. They will cause accidents.
If your going to do it, then do it properly. Giving people a false sense of safety with these painted lanes is worse than doing nothing at all IMO.
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Red Rider » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:28 pm
Request for something like this to be installednachoman wrote:Found today that Richmond St Leederville heading west x Loftus St is now left turn only. This is a somewhat popular east-west run to get to the Freeway PSP.
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