Thanks for the heads up. Of course cyclists aren't even considered.nachoman wrote:Found today that Richmond St Leederville heading west x Loftus St is now left turn only. This is a somewhat popular east-west run to get to the Freeway PSP.
Map here
City of Vincent comments here, council minutes
No mention of impact to cyclists, only cars and parking. Seems it is a six month trial. Now cyclists have to move to the footpath to cross Loftus St.
Dept of Transport map indicates it is a local bicycle friendly street (link)
City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
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Postby NewStew » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:57 am
Oh and the sign above would be perfect.
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby nachoman » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:22 pm
On closer inspection there is no signage to indicate left turn only, only 'No Right Turn'. So I guess we can navigate the seagull island and go straight still ?nachoman wrote:Found today that Richmond St Leederville heading west x Loftus St is now left turn only.
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Postby wellington_street » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:53 pm
Based on the photo, yes you can go straight.nachoman wrote:On closer inspection there is no signage to indicate left turn only, only 'No Right Turn'. So I guess we can navigate the seagull island and go straight still ?nachoman wrote:Found today that Richmond St Leederville heading west x Loftus St is now left turn only.
http://imgur.com/TFilH3V" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Postby nachoman » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:46 pm
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Postby wellington_street » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:56 am
With bicycles excepted plate?nachoman wrote:Left turn only sign is now in place at Richmond St
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby wellington_street » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:25 am
The former four-lane pavement has been resurfaced to create a parking lane, door zone shoulder(?) and then a traffic lane but the strange thing is that bicycle symbols have been placed in the traffic lane. I thought to myself that maybe Council have realised door zone bike lanes are a terrible idea? But then I remembered they are currently spending $2m to put in door zone bike lanes...
What's also strange is that the road has been like this with no line marking on the red/black asphalt join since December...
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby Hugor » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:44 am
Drivers would get annoyed and probably aggressive that I wasn't using the obviously marked bike lane.
Some would perform dangerous passes or road rage to demonstrate their frustrations.
Inexperienced cyclists would use the lanes thinking they were safe, but actually at greater danger than if they were using a regular road with no bike lane.
Nice work City of Vincent!
Its great that you went to all the effort of a user consultation only to ignore the advice and waste shire funds on a pointless project.
At least I pay my rates to Bayswater!
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Postby NewStew » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:03 pm
Actually the works on Oxford St look pretty good (I live just off there) - the bike lane being installed is very wide and you should be able to ride along about 0.5m inside the white line and be clear of the door zone. Would have preferred better but it will be a whole lot better than it was where you were constantly pushed into the door zone (they created the extra space by indenting the parking bays). The council also lobbied to get the speed limit lowered on Oxford St which is also a plus.wellington_street wrote:...... But then I remembered they are currently spending $2m to put in door zone bike lanes...
Probably the only thing that I think they could have done better on Oxford St (given the constraints of not wanting to reduce pedestrian amenity by removing the median space) is to paint it up with a clearly marked door zone and a skinnier bike lane - that way inexperienced riders (who will be attracted by the seemingly safe infrastructure) will ride in the safe part of the current bike lane.
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Re: City of Vincent - Consulting on Infrastructure Changes
Postby wellington_street » Wed May 13, 2015 10:24 pm
Also rode into town from Leederville via Vincent/Bulwer/Palmerston Streets recently. Basically nothing has changed between Oxford St and Charles St - the path is a horribly bumpy, jarring ride and still doesn't have "shared path" signs or markings. Door zone lanes on Bulwer are similar to Oxford St but feel a bit more comfortable. The eastbound pinch point at Fitzgerald St is pretty bad too - difficult merge while drivers are accelerating after the red light.
Great to see cycling investment but the details of the implementation are sorely lacking still.
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