Transporting Bikes by Car
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Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby prplhydra » Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:21 pm
http://www.news.com.au/national/breakin ... 6976260033
Now once my bike/s is on the bike rack on my car the plates are partially obscured. Does anyone know how WA law addresses this? (in NSW there are auxillary plates to attach over the top of the obstruction, but I've never seen anything like that in WA).
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby sorted » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:32 pm
I come from Europe, where, if using a rear-mounted bike rack that obscures your number plate or lights, you need to attach an auxilliary number plate and rear lights (brakes, tail lights and turn signals) to the bike rack. As I understand it, this isn't possible in WA because auxiliary number plates aren't available. I didn't get as far as tracking down the definitive bit of legislation but came across a few posts like this one, which sounded convincing enough:
http://rideons.wordpress.com/2012/12/11 ... mment-2895
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby dmwill » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:08 am
Like many things, WA is behind VIC and NSW.
Might be time to fire off a few letters/emails to the right people.
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby dmwill » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:11 am
WA just needs to catch up and have bike rack plates available.
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby ball bearing » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:16 am
What's the thinking (if any) behind WA not allowing accessory plates? Is there a crime wave in the eastern states because crims are using their bike rack plates for fun and profit?dmwill wrote:My plates are somewhat unique to my car (though not personalised). They're fitted with security screws and have covers - stuff removing them every weekend.
WA just needs to catch up and have bike rack plates available.
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby WarbyD » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:30 am
We've had police vehicles directly behind us plenty of times during that period, never been pulled over.. I suspect it falls into the category of "technically illegal, but as long as you're not being a prick then nor will the officer BUT if you do something stupid to annoy them, expect it to be added to the list of things they'll ping you for"
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby ball bearing » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:42 am
I also have had coppers behind me when my huge 4 bike platform racks are on the back. I suppose the fact that I also mount a lightbar plastered with reflective tape convinces them that I'm trying to do the right thing. It only takes on jerk having a bad day to mess things up. I was amazed when the local shire licensing lady said there were no accessory plates issued in WA.WarbyD wrote: We've had police vehicles directly behind us plenty of times during that period, never been pulled over.. I suspect it falls into the category of "technically illegal, but as long as you're not being a prick then nor will the officer BUT if you do something stupid to annoy them, expect it to be added to the list of things they'll ping you for"
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby dmwill » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:17 pm
Supposedly illegal to have 3 plates here.ball bearing wrote: What's the thinking (if any) behind WA not allowing accessory plates? Is there a crime wave in the eastern states because crims are using their bike rack plates for fun and profit?
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby WarbyD » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:21 pm
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Postby queequeg » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:49 pm
Is a trailer considered an attachment when it is on the tow ball? If so, what is the difference between towing a trailer and towing a bike rack? A trailer will always extend beyond the 60% wheelbase.Oxford wrote:Remove the existing plate and relocate, making sure it is well lit. However in saying that, you will find most towbar attachments are illegal anyway. The ADRs specify that vehicle attachments and associated loads ie bike racks with bikes on it must not exceed certain dimensions. Simply put measure your wheelbase, axle to axle, take 60% of this distance and then measure from the rear axle rearward. Where this 60% measure ends is as far back as any attachment and associated load is allowed to extend. You will find that for most 4wds, utes etc there is very little room past the towbar tongue. Its also why many utes have a towbar tongue that actually sits under the tray, its in order to keep it inside the allowance. However as with everything check your local regs for clarification.
It also throws up some oddities. For example, a stretch hummer:
That could legally have a massive protrusion at the rear.
Anyway, I have been pulled up with my Thule Euroway 3-bike platform carrier on the bike (for an RBT & defect check), and the police were rather interested in the rack. That is, they wanted to know where to buy one, how much it cost, how much weight it could take. They were also impressed as it had the integrated light bar and illuminated bike rack plate.
They did not whip out their tape measures and calculators to check the wheelbase and rear protrusion on the Mazda to see if the rack fitted into the guidelines for bike rack use in nsw http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... vsi_10.pdf
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Postby worzel » Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:28 pm
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Postby Marmoset » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:07 pm
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby bychosis » Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:13 pm
In NSW at least there are at least two measurements to meet, the 60% and another maximum protrusion from the rear of the vehicle. 1200mm max. for most vehicles the default is the 60% number as it is less than the 1200mmqueequeg wrote: It also throws up some oddities. For example, a stretch hummer:
That could legally have a massive protrusion at the rear.
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby queequeg » Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:18 pm
I should have read my own PDFbychosis wrote:In NSW at least there are at least two measurements to meet, the 60% and another maximum protrusion from the rear of the vehicle. 1200mm max. for most vehicles the default is the 60% number as it is less than the 1200mmqueequeg wrote: It also throws up some oddities. For example, a stretch hummer:
That could legally have a massive protrusion at the rear.
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Postby SNAKE ® » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:56 pm
You can fit 4 on a roof with ease - if anyone is concerned about carrying bikes.
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby dmwill » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:39 am
Still not holding my breath for any aux plate in the near future.
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby prplhydra » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:08 pm
also not prepared to hold breath for auxillary plates...
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby citywomble » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:50 pm
I have this letter photographed on my iPad as a 'Get Out of Jail Free Card'.
If I get stopped when my bikes are on the tow bar rack I will be able to show the letter in mitigation and evidence of the Ministers intent towards leniency.
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby dmwill » Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:39 am
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby SNAKE ® » Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:42 pm
Good call.dmwill wrote:Yeah, will be keeping a copy in the car just in case.
Just for reference, a mate of mine just got a $1000 fine for "obscuring a number plate" on his new motorbike. Pre September it was $50.
Officer said the plate was not exactly 90degrees (it was about 85degrees). Thats was enough for the idiot traffic cop to issue a fine.
So just be aware, they're out there now with this new fine system looking to generate revenue with the most lame of reasons.
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby Thoglette » Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:28 pm
At $1000 it's worth considering taking that one to court. If you're lucky the issuing officer will fail to attend and it'll get thrown out.SNAKE ® wrote:Officer said the plate was not exactly 90degrees (it was about 85degrees). Thats was enough for the idiot traffic cop to issue a fine.
(Do check the rules it's been decades since I've been involved in such cases - brand new ADR compliant bike pinged for "excessive exhaust noise")
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby SNAKE ® » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:42 am
Just saying that a case is not thrown out if the offers don't attend. I am $853 down to prove this :/Thoglette wrote:At $1000 it's worth considering taking that one to court. If you're lucky the issuing officer will fail to attend and it'll get thrown out.SNAKE ® wrote:Officer said the plate was not exactly 90degrees (it was about 85degrees). Thats was enough for the idiot traffic cop to issue a fine.
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby PA » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:32 pm
The funny part about this is they are made in Western Australia!
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Re: Transporting Bikes by Car
Postby dmwill » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:17 pm
Every other state has them. Just another simple thing that WA doesn't have.
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