95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
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95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby AdsPear » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:15 pm
Saw this in twitter this morning. On a cycle path but not much more details
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby Thoglette » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:29 pm
Elderly pedestrian struck by cyclist on Bassendean bike path dies
The crash happened on a cycle path next to Guildford Road about 2:30pm yesterday.
The elderly man sustained serious head injuries and was taken to Royal Perth Hospital by ambulance, where he later died.
The cyclist, a 53-year-old man, received minor injuries.
Police are seeking information from anyone who may have seen the crash, or who saw either the pedestrian or cyclist prior to the incident.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby ball bearing » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:10 pm
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby biker jk » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:28 pm
I'm not familiar with the type of paths used in WA. Are there dedicated cycle paths and was this accident on one of those or was it a shared path?ball bearing wrote:I'm not surprised. Hopefully we will not learn that the cyclist was striving to beat his PB on the shared path.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby dampier » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:44 pm
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby AdsPear » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:34 pm
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby flashpixx » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:47 pm
Not jumping to conclusions are we? Perhaps a job on Today Tonight is in your future?ball bearing wrote:I'm not surprised. .
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby outnabike » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:34 pm
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby citywomble » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:46 pm
The implications for cyclists can be quite dire, not least because a few years ago criminal law was modified in response to a cyclist/pedestrian fatality, to provide for serious jail time if it happened again as the previous legislation was deemed deficient. This may be that time and this cyclist may face 'Culpable Driving' charges.
I hope for the cyclist that there are other circumstances, however, sincere condolences to the elderly walker and his family for this tragic incident.Criminal Code Act Compilation Act 1913. Section 284 of the Criminal Code which came into effect on August 1, 2008. Section 284 of the Criminal Code of deals with “Culpable Driving” of vehicles such as bikes, skateboards, scooters, animals and even shopping trolleys and provides for a penalty of 10 years imprisonment for culpable driving causing death and seven years for causing grievous bodily harm. Culpable Driving includes driving/riding a bike in a manner, including speed, that in the circumstances is dangerous to any person. This offence would apply to a cyclist running down a pedestrian.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby Karati » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:25 pm
ball bearing wrote:I'm not surprised. Hopefully we will not learn that the cyclist was striving to beat his PB on the shared path.
Great trolling!
It's a very straight path where its right next to Guildford road and it is possible the older man stepped out to/from crossing the road.
I ride that path up to 12 times a week and it's pretty rare to even see a pedestrian round there.
Further back just before the Tonkin overpass there is a bit of a blind corner that could be dangerous though.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby citywomble » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:43 pm
If that was the case, and while it may weigh slightly in the cyclists favour (in sentencing), it will not remove most liability or culpability.it is possible the older man stepped out to/from crossing the road
In WA, any cyclist riding on a shared path is required to give way to any pedestrian ON or CROSSING the path. This is applicable to any pedestrian stepping out to/from the path to the road or from any other path. That is what makes shared paths so onerous for cyclists where, on a bike path, the onus is the other way round, the cyclist has right of way and any pedestrian must give way to any cyclist when crossing and is not permitted to walk along the path (rather like walking on the road)
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby ball bearing » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:25 am
I fail to see how my statement and question could be considered trolling. I sincerely hope that we don't learn that the cyclist was being negligent and reckless. However, judging from the numerous fool-hearty cyclists' I see on the paths I fear the worst.Karati wrote:ball bearing wrote:I'm not surprised. Hopefully we will not learn that the cyclist was striving to beat his PB on the shared path.
Great trolling!
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby mitzikatzi » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:07 pm
Either or both parties may have been at fault.
I do know on more than one occasion while riding on PSP's I have had oncoming walkers panic and step in front of me at the last moment.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby Red Rider » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:04 pm
Besides the facts (or lack there of known publicly) of this case which I'll leave to the police and courts to ruminate over, people on bikes do need to be extra vigilant around pedestrians, occasionally they do not take a fast moving, silent bike into their calculations when moving around a shared area.
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Postby Marmoset » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:10 pm
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby Baalzamon » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:17 pm
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:58 pm
We know nothing other than a pedestrian came off second best. Until then, how about we exercise less excusing and more respect for the victim of a tragedy?
To say that peds do such and such, with the implicationtherefore that that may have occured in this case is absolutely the same as those offensive responses we see in comments following news reports of cyclists dying under vehicles. The sort where a cyclists is killed and idiot ahters start talking about red light jumpers etc as if it is somehow relevant to the particular tragedy being reported on.
Sexism, racism, cyclism and now pedism. All based on generalisations, not specifics.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby Cycleops70 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:30 pm
Well said.ColinOldnCranky wrote:Why is it that we feel it is approriate to suggest scenarios - on cycling forums they usually favour the cyclist , funny that - without any knowledge specific to the case?
We know nothing other than a pedestrian came off second best. Until then, how about we exercise less excusing and more respect for the victim of a tragedy?
To say that peds do such and such, with the implicationtherefore that that may have occured in this case is absolutely the same as those offensive responses we see in comments following news reports of cyclists dying under vehicles. The sort where a cyclists is killed and idiot ahters start talking about red light jumpers etc as if it is somehow relevant to the particular tragedy being reported on.
Sexism, racism, cyclism and now pedism. All based on generalisations, not specifics.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby Tandem » Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:32 pm
Well said.ColinOldnCranky wrote:Why is it that we feel it is approriate to suggest scenarios - on cycling forums they usually favour the cyclist , funny that - without any knowledge specific to the case?
We know nothing other than a pedestrian came off second best. Until then, how about we exercise less excusing and more respect for the victim of a tragedy?
To say that peds do such and such, with the implicationtherefore that that may have occured in this case is absolutely the same as those offensive responses we see in comments following news reports of cyclists dying under vehicles. The sort where a cyclists is killed and idiot ahters start talking about red light jumpers etc as if it is somehow relevant to the particular tragedy being reported on.
Sexism, racism, cyclism and now pedism. All based on generalisations, not specifics.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby blkmcs » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:50 pm
Very well said!Tandem wrote:Well said.ColinOldnCranky wrote:Why is it that we feel it is approriate to suggest scenarios - on cycling forums they usually favour the cyclist , funny that - without any knowledge specific to the case?
We know nothing other than a pedestrian came off second best. Until then, how about we exercise less excusing and more respect for the victim of a tragedy?
To say that peds do such and such, with the implicationtherefore that that may have occured in this case is absolutely the same as those offensive responses we see in comments following news reports of cyclists dying under vehicles. The sort where a cyclists is killed and idiot ahters start talking about red light jumpers etc as if it is somehow relevant to the particular tragedy being reported on.
Sexism, racism, cyclism and now pedism. All based on generalisations, not specifics.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby flashpixx » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:49 pm
AgreedRed Rider wrote:Very sad. Being 95 he at least lived a long and hopefully fulfilling life to that point.
Besides the facts (or lack there of known publicly) of this case which I'll leave to the police and courts to ruminate over, people on bikes do need to be extra vigilant around pedestrians, occasionally they do not take a fast moving, silent bike into their calculations when moving around a shared area.
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Re: 95 year old dies after being hit by cyclist
Postby exadios » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:33 am
+1ColinOldnCranky wrote:Why is it that we feel it is approriate to suggest scenarios - on cycling forums they usually favour the cyclist , funny that - without any knowledge specific to the case?
We know nothing other than a pedestrian came off second best. Until then, how about we exercise less excusing and more respect for the victim of a tragedy?
To say that peds do such and such, with the implicationtherefore that that may have occured in this case is absolutely the same as those offensive responses we see in comments following news reports of cyclists dying under vehicles. The sort where a cyclists is killed and idiot ahters start talking about red light jumpers etc as if it is somehow relevant to the particular tragedy being reported on.
Sexism, racism, cyclism and now pedism. All based on generalisations, not specifics.
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