Parking across marked bike lanes
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Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby twowheels » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:29 pm
His response when I mentioned he was parked across the bike lane was to laugh. My response was then to write down his rego number. Should have taken a photo, that is his business, he could hardly have complained.
What can be done in the type of situation as above?
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby hooman » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:20 am
That was that!
So much for wasting all that money providing a bicycle lane well marked in red for "parking"!
I'm over it!
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby OldBloke » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:32 am
I wonder if you could report him to Police for blocking traffic (the bike lane is a designated traffic lane) and dangerous parking. The school may also be interested to follow it up as a road safety issue.
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby twowheels » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:03 pm
Legally the child can ride the footpath, but that regularly has cars parked across it. Further problem is if the adults also rode on the footpath we could be fined. Also of course the footpath is bumpy. Not so good to have the child on the footpath, two adults on bike lane/road.
Is this new, to be introduced to WA, clearway tow away thing going to apply also to bike lanes?
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby citywomble » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:05 pm
In WA the Road Traffic Code 2000 is very clear and prohibits parking in a Bike Lane.
The problem, however, is that there is some (deliberate) confusion over what is and what is not a proper bike lane.
By marking a lane, with a bike symbol, it is intended to look like a bike lane for cyclists while most regulators and enforcers (generally rangers) don't believe they are legal bike lanes and hence unenforceable.
Ask Nedlands council if they are proper (legal) bike lanes:
If they say yes then tell them the RTC 2000 and the local laws make parking in them illegal and they should infringe.
If they say they are not proper bike lanes then ask them why they are there and what they are.
The problem with fake bike lanes is too many motorists expect cyclists to ride in them, too many cars get away with parking in them and too many cyclists feel they have to use them - until they can't!
That is a recipe for.......
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby Scott_C » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:01 pm
If it was illegal then they couldn't park their own trucks in the bike lane.hooman wrote:I took photos and sent it to the Nedlands council. The response was, get this, "...it is not against the law to park in the bicycle lane..."
Note: The StreetView image was from 2010 and I can't see a sign designating it as a legal bike lane back then but I rode Victoria Ave on Saturday and would swear that I did see a sign along there (not that it stopped cars parking in the lane).
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby Scott_C » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:19 pm
Looking on Street View from Feb this year whilst it is a lane and there are signs relating to it they aren't the correct signs to legally make it a bike lane (white signs with a picture of a bicycle and the word LANE).twowheels wrote:What can be done in the following type of situation? On the eastern side of Palmerston Street, North Perth/Northbridge, there is a marked bike lane, there is also a marked bike lane on the western side. It forms part of the Perth Bicycle Network route NE4.
Unless the signs have been changed or there is some other parking or no stopping sign related to the area they were stopped in they may have been legally allowed to park there.
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby wellington_street » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:41 am
Short answer to your question is:
1. Take a photo
2. Ring City of Vincent (or Perth if south of Newcastle) and ask to speak to a parking ranger and report the issue
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby twowheels » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:33 pm
Bike lane or not, they have parked just after where it says "no standing", funny!Scott_C wrote:If it was illegal then they couldn't park their own trucks in the bike lane.hooman wrote:I took photos and sent it to the Nedlands council. The response was, get this, "...it is not against the law to park in the bicycle lane..."
Note: The StreetView image was from 2010 and I can't see a sign designating it as a legal bike lane back then but I rode Victoria Ave on Saturday and would swear that I did see a sign along there (not that it stopped cars parking in the lane).
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby twowheels » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:36 pm
The blue sign with a bike and arrow doesn't make it a bike lane? Could someone please post a photo of the official sign thanks?Scott_C wrote:Looking on Street View from Feb this year whilst it is a lane and there are signs relating to it they aren't the correct signs to legally make it a bike lane (white signs with a picture of a bicycle and the word LANE).twowheels wrote:What can be done in the following type of situation? On the eastern side of Palmerston Street, North Perth/Northbridge, there is a marked bike lane, there is also a marked bike lane on the western side. It forms part of the Perth Bicycle Network route NE4.
Unless the signs have been changed or there is some other parking or no stopping sign related to the area they were stopped in they may have been legally allowed to park there.
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby wellington_street » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:23 am
The official sign is the black on white bicycle symbol + LANE sign.twowheels wrote:The blue sign with a bike and arrow doesn't make it a bike lane? Could someone please post a photo of the official sign thanks?Scott_C wrote:Looking on Street View from Feb this year whilst it is a lane and there are signs relating to it they aren't the correct signs to legally make it a bike lane (white signs with a picture of a bicycle and the word LANE).twowheels wrote:What can be done in the following type of situation? On the eastern side of Palmerston Street, North Perth/Northbridge, there is a marked bike lane, there is also a marked bike lane on the western side. It forms part of the Perth Bicycle Network route NE4.
Unless the signs have been changed or there is some other parking or no stopping sign related to the area they were stopped in they may have been legally allowed to park there.
The white on blue sign is no longer current but i thought is still recognised by the Code. Having just checked the Code i think im wrong? Bit hard to be 100% sure on my phone.
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby SNAKE ® » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:23 pm
Seems the PSP is an exception for the Police with their speed camera vans..
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby Scott_C » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:07 pm
twowheels wrote:Could someone please post a photo of the official sign thanks?
From: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/c ... /s132.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EDIT:
The following sign is also still recognised:
From: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/c ... /sch3.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby Sinner » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:12 pm
They could have parked on the road as the median is only markings and no kerbs!
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby wellington_street » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:50 pm
Still illegal:Sinner wrote:The City of Stirling blocked the West Coast Drive shared path this morning causing chaos for riders and pedestrians.
They could have parked on the road as the median is only markings and no kerbs!
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/c ... /s165.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Would have been much less of a douchey thing to do though!The driver of a vehicle (other than a bicycle, an EPT or an animal) shall not stop so that any portion of the vehicle is on a path, dividing strip, painted island, or a nature strip adjacent to a length of carriageway in a built‑up area, unless —
(a) the driver stops in an area, to which a parking control sign applies and the driver is permitted to stop at that place under these regulations; or
(b) the driver is permitted to do so under a local law.
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby twowheels » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:59 pm
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby Hugor » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:02 am
Cycle lanes on Waratah Ave, Preston point Rd and many roads through Applecross are very commonly used as parking bays.
These should be considered clearways warranting immediate tow removal.
It creates genuine dangerous hazard forcing cyclists to merge with the traffic.
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
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Re: Parking across marked bike lanes
Postby Aushiker » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:06 am
Regulation 157 of the WA Road Traffic Code suggests otherwise. Regulation 138 does provide some limited exemptions which are for limited periods, however, parking is not an exempted activity. Also the latest changes to the Road Traffic Code came into place on April 27, 2015, i.e., yesterday. Neither Regulation 157 or 138 where part of those changes and hence appear to have been in place since December 1, 2000 (note: I have not checked all the Gazettes for 100% confirmation on that date).Red Rider wrote:I talked to a council's ranger services last week about a truck and car parked in a bike lane. They said that they couldn't do anything about it as it isn't against the law. But they said there are imminent changes to state law to rectify the situation.
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