I rode into the city along Rutland Ave yesterday for the first time in a few weeks and noticed that a number of additional on-road parking bays had been painted in at Oats St station, including through a section that was previously signed as "no stopping" immediately past the bus stop.
The previous arrangement can be seen on Google Maps and the new arrangement looks like this:
Fortunately the parking bays were empty when I rode through so I didn't have a problem but my overall impression is that the road is now dangerously narrow through this section where there is street side parking on both sides of the street and no painted centreline or shoulder lines.
Does anyone else ride this way and have you had any trouble with the new layout when the bays are being used?
Rutland Ave at Oats St Train Station
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Re: Rutland Ave at Oats St Train Station
Postby Red Rider » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:35 pm
I'd hazard a guess that they've only thought about motor vehicles using this space when designing/approving.
I haven't yet ridden this section with the new markings, but I ride Smith St in Highgate which has narrow lanes between car parking. I perceive this to be a safe road as riding in the middle of the lane is perfectly acceptable and drivers take it 'slow' in the narrow lanes and virtually always overtake completely on the other side of the center line.
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I'd suggest a center line marking along with on-road bicycle symbol markings in the middle of the lanes would make this more usable. And a 40km/h zone would be great, but we can always dream...
I haven't yet ridden this section with the new markings, but I ride Smith St in Highgate which has narrow lanes between car parking. I perceive this to be a safe road as riding in the middle of the lane is perfectly acceptable and drivers take it 'slow' in the narrow lanes and virtually always overtake completely on the other side of the center line.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/(AT)-31.941 ... qe6tHQ!2e0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'd suggest a center line marking along with on-road bicycle symbol markings in the middle of the lanes would make this more usable. And a 40km/h zone would be great, but we can always dream...
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Re: Rutland Ave at Oats St Train Station
Postby Scott_C » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:00 pm
The 40kph zone is always my suggestion when asked about the Perth Bicycle Network. Where they haven't built off-road paths on a designated bicycle route (like this section of Rutland Ave) they should make the road speed limit 40kph. That way when the shared path is finally built car drivers can get something out of it when the road speed limit is returned to 50kph.
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Re: Rutland Ave at Oats St Train Station
Postby casual_cyclist » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:18 pm
That has been my local train station for nearly 10 years. It has always been the case that cars could park on both sides of the road except for the 'no stopping' section that you mentioned above. Parking has always been permitted past the 'no stopping' point, so really, the road in this section is no narrower than it always was. I would suggest anyone using that section of road to be careful though, lots of peds and vehicle drivers do not pay attention here. Because the bays are paid parking, they are rarely used, although people may temporarily stop to drop off a passenger. That has always happened and I have found those drivers pay the least attention. It's a bit of a dodgy peice of road due to driver behaviour, but then it always has been.Scott_C wrote:Fortunately the parking bays were empty when I rode through so I didn't have a problem but my overall impression is that the road is now dangerously narrow through this section where there is street side parking on both sides of the street and no painted centreline or shoulder lines.
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Re: Rutland Ave at Oats St Train Station
Postby casual_cyclist » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:22 pm
I'm opposed to blanket 40 km/h zones because I think that 40 km/h zones should be targeted at specific areas that warrant a lower speed. This is definitely one of those areas that warrants a 40 km/h zone. I would put it along Rutland Ave between Oats St and Mecury St. It should not be necessary but due to potential ped/cyclist and motorist conflict, it is. Drivers won't slow down in this section so the speed limit needs to be reduced.Red Rider wrote:I'd suggest a center line marking along with on-road bicycle symbol markings in the middle of the lanes would make this more usable. And a 40km/h zone would be great, but we can always dream...
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