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Hmmm, heard a lot of this before.
The proof of this pudding will be in the pedalstrokes.
Cycle infrastructure upgrade
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Cycle infrastructure upgrade
Postby Joeblake » Sat May 09, 2015 11:47 am
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Re: Cycle infrastructure upgrade
Postby nachoman » Sat May 09, 2015 12:46 pm
Media Statement
Major cycling projects PDFThe four-year plan to improve infrastructure for cycling includes $34.4 million allocated to the following projects:
Gateway WA
Mitchell Freeway extension - Burns Beach Road to Hester Avenue
Great Eastern Highway - Bilgoman to Mundaring
Reid Highway dual carriageway and Malaga Drive interchange.
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Each year, the Government provides grants to local governments for cycling infrastructure and the development of bike plans through the Regional Bicycle Network and the Perth Bicycle Network with $37.71 million allocated for the next four years.
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Re: Cycle infrastructure upgrade
Postby Gunnadothat » Sat May 09, 2015 3:13 pm
Just as an aside, one of the past problems of the different projects is they've failed to link up with existing infrastructure, resulting in a patchwork of good sections with inadequate links.
So with that in mind, can anyone let me know how the Roe PSP will link up with Gateway WA paths?
So with that in mind, can anyone let me know how the Roe PSP will link up with Gateway WA paths?
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Rating: Pathetic
Postby Thoglette » Sat May 09, 2015 6:12 pm
Nader's trying to make a gallon out of a pint pot. He should be ashamed but will undoubtabley talk about how "it is an improvement I've made".Joeblake wrote:The proof of this pudding will be in the pedalstrokes.
It's less than 1/3 of what the RAC (that's the Automobile club) reckons the government should be spending - and a large chunk will be going to PSP beside yet another freeway extension - IE money that is already ear marked in the PSP-for-no-cyclists-Freeway deal
So it's a pretty crappy outcome, really. Especially when $500M is being spent on major roads, local council (ie local road) expenditure remains capped.
Including $200M on a freeway extension that every single sane person understands is money very badly spent.
As they used to say "it's crap, Ray, crap"
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Re: Rating: Pathetic
Postby dmwill » Sat May 09, 2015 7:56 pm
Why? Northern end of Perth (aka South Geraldton) is rapidly expanding, at the moment you're really just limited to Marmion Ave.Thoglette wrote:
Including $200M on a freeway extension that every single sane person understands is money very badly spent.
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Re: Rating: Pathetic
Postby Scott_C » Sat May 09, 2015 9:24 pm
As I understand it the choke point on the Mitchell Fwy is the Perth Interchange. Encouraging more traffic onto the Freeway will just make things worse for the rest of the northern suburbs when the extra traffic arrives at the choke point.dmwill wrote:Why? Northern end of Perth (aka South Geraldton) is rapidly expanding, at the moment you're really just limited to Marmion Ave.
As there are already 4 lanes in each direction North-South between Burns Beach Road and Hester Ave (Marmion Ave x 2 lanes, Connolly Drive and Wanneroo Road) the extra 2 lanes from the Freeway isn't likely to make a big difference to carrying capacity, especially considering there will only be 2 new freeway entrances, only 1 of which will be accessible from the East.
You could add an extra lane to Burns Beach Road between Connolly Drive and the Freeway entrance to help deal with congestion there for ~$20M, build the PSP along the railway from Burns Beach Rd to Manasota Approach for ~$10M and then put the rest of the money towards extending the railway to Yanchep to try and decrease the number of cars coming into the Perth Interchange on the Mitchell Fwy rather than increasing them.
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Re: Cycle infrastructure upgrade
Postby worzel » Sat May 09, 2015 9:28 pm
I don't know about the other elements, but the cycle paths in the Mitchell PSP extension is a re-announcement of old news as it is part of the design published in the last couple of months. Sneaky.
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Re: Cycle infrastructure upgrade
Postby Z350 » Sun May 10, 2015 6:51 pm
Anyone else see this in the weekend west ?
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Re: Rating: Pathetic
Postby Thoglette » Sun May 10, 2015 7:24 pm
There's much better places to spend $200M (or the $2B wasted on the perth airport driveway)dmwill wrote:Why? Northern end of Perth (aka South Geraldton) is rapidly expanding, at the moment you're really just limited to Marmion Ave.Thoglette wrote:every single sane person understands is money very badly spent.
$200M would be the remains of the money the RAC said should be spent on bike infrastructure (at a much, much better ROI). Or it'd get a nice chunk of the land needed for the ring railway - or 10km or 20km of same. Indeed it's more than is needed to connect the airport to the trainlines
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