Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
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Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby as7431 » Sat May 23, 2015 3:42 pm
I am planning my first metric ton: From the north, down Mitchell => Kwinana PSP then across to the coast along either Thomas or Anketell Rd and then back up the coast (Rockingham Rd, Cockburn Rd, through Freo, across Queen Vic bridge and back home along the coast. As I have never ridden south of Roe Hwy, I was hoping to get some local knowledge
1. Thomas Rd appears to be the safer route (there is a off road bike path) rather than Anketell, but it adds about 8km to the ride (which may become very important at the end ). What is Anketell Rd like to ride (bearing in mind this will be mid week and about 11am). There does appear to be a decent shoulder for most of it (from what I can tell from Google maps) but a little concerned if this is a popular truck route.
2. Rockingham then Cockburn then Hampton Rd - anything to watch out for? Only thing that I have seen from Google Maps is a stretch south of Henderson (near the caravan? park) that has narrow shoulders.
Thanks in advance
Tim
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby Baalzamon » Sat May 23, 2015 9:40 pm
Both routes are big on trucks and not much shoulder, take path my advise
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby wellington_street » Sat May 23, 2015 10:34 pm
Wattleup Road might be a better option as it carries a fair few less trucks.
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby just4tehhalibut » Sat May 23, 2015 11:47 pm
I'd also actually turn off Wattleup soon after getting on, either at Pearse Rd or better, Moylan Rd (used by training groups, avoids the non-shoulder and big hill on Russell. If you go this way you also avoid the new chipseal on Rockingham Rd around Wattleup, a bit rough. Take Russell to the coast, either then stay on Cockburn Rd into Freo (have fun with that) or when you get to Woodman Point turn off onto one of the bikepaths there and try to follow those up the coast. The first path is 200m righthandside down O'Kane Crt or you can go to the actual point and pick paths from there.
If instead you just take Anketell Rd all the way to Rockingham (and the trucks barrel through on Anketell) and then get onto Cockburn Rd near Naval Base you can either stay on Cockburn or explore another unsung path there. At the carpark on the opposite side of the road from the caravan park in Naval Base there's a path on the northside, take that and after 50m take the path on the right, this'll take you through the guts of the Mt Brown nature reserve and bring you out at Russell Rd. It also ends opposite another path that rings Lake Coogee but we won't go there.
Anketell has less traffic, traffic lights, traffic accidents and chipseal than Thomas. You can always bail off Thomas onto Anketell at McLaughlin (watch for emus) or Abercrombie (also a bit busy).
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby billy70 » Mon May 25, 2015 7:52 am
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby Bakks » Mon May 25, 2015 8:30 am
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby as7431 » Mon May 25, 2015 11:36 am
just4tehhalibut: you wrote "path that rings Lake Coogee but we won't go there". This looks like an option - but not sure if you are warning me against it.
Thanks
Tim
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby bradwoodbr » Mon May 25, 2015 2:16 pm
Kw PSP >Right Betram > Right Wellard > Left Runnymede Gate > Left Gilmore > Dixon > Left Patterson > Right Wanliss.
There are cycle lanes and parallel bike paths along most except for Gilmore which has a narrow cycle lane. Take extra care at the Patterson/Wanliss roundabout.
Wanliss brings you out at the Rockingham foreshore just short of the cafe strip.
I usually like to return with seabreeze tailwind along the coast:
Rockingham Beach Rd > Right Port >Left Rockingham > Left Cockburn and on into Fremantle > around the river to Perth.
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby bradwoodbr » Mon May 25, 2015 2:18 pm
Snakes across/on path in Spring and Summer.as7431 wrote:Thanks to everyone for the advice. Back to google maps for some more planning.
just4tehhalibut: you wrote "path that rings Lake Coogee but we won't go there". This looks like an option - but not sure if you are warning me against it.
Thanks
Tim
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby just4tehhalibut » Mon May 25, 2015 10:28 pm
So we don't take you there.
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby Thoglette » Mon May 25, 2015 10:56 pm
But at rush hour, I'll take McGrath, Fawcett road and Mayor road over Cockburn road any day. Especially Friday afternoon after a few beers have been had.just4tehhalibut wrote:Usually the Lake Coogee path is unkempt with branches and rocks.... So we don't take you there.
I thought Beeliar now had a "shared path" all the way along it ?????- at least until near Positano, when a back-blocks run to Churchill is in order.
Russell is f****ng aweful due to the number of heavy trucks, poor sight lines and 80kph stretches. Unless something's changed in the last 18months
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby as7431 » Mon May 25, 2015 11:26 pm
This seems to avoid most of the worst bits. Hopefully mid week middle of the day the roads will be not too bad.
Thoughts?
Tim
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby Baalzamon » Mon May 25, 2015 11:41 pm
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby argybargy » Wed May 27, 2015 10:25 am
It is much safer in terms of traffic.
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby nickobec » Wed May 27, 2015 5:26 pm
The OP does not want to ride that far. Personally I find Betram Road (which is the name of the road west of the freeway between the roundabouts before becoming Mortimer Road) dangerous. I rarely ride it. Most people I know riding from the PSP to Rockingham use Millar, Mandurah & Dixon Roads. Especially with the current (last 6 months or more) road works on Gilmore, making it a single lane, no shoulder between Runnymede Gate and Mandurah Road.argybargy wrote:Whats wrong with heading down to Mortimer, then Gilmore and Dixon road?
It is much safer in terms of traffic.
To the OP, I have ridden Thomas and Anketell Road and would not recommend them, both are dangerous. The path along Thomas I avoid, it is badly maintained, over hanging branches, blind corners and concrete. I use back roads through Kwinana instead, but that does not suit your needs.
I have not ridden Mandogalup Road, but that gives you 1km on Wattleup, which I have not ridden for years and a 1km backtrack up Rockingham Road to Cockburn Road, but that would be my preferred option if I was doing the ride.
Though if the aim is for a metric century, I would ride down the freeway PSP to Roe, ride up Roe PSP, turn round, ride back turn south onto the freeway PSP, ride as far as you need for the century and turn around and head home. That way you have train stations to bail out at. There is a great little shipping container cafe in the space west of the cockburn central train station were you can walk your bike to the counter, as well as water stops, the side path just after crossing the rail line after Roe Hwy heading south and south side of Mt Henry Bridge.
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby argybargy » Thu May 28, 2015 1:24 pm
Both lanes were open on the weekend along Gilmore, no lines were painted, but there were reflectors for a cycle lane plus two car lanes.nickobec wrote:The OP does not want to ride that far. Personally I find Betram Road (which is the name of the road west of the freeway between the roundabouts before becoming Mortimer Road) dangerous. I rarely ride it. Most people I know riding from the PSP to Rockingham use Millar, Mandurah & Dixon Roads. Especially with the current (last 6 months or more) road works on Gilmore, making it a single lane, no shoulder between Runnymede Gate and Mandurah Road.
I personally ride through the new sections of Wellard, across a path that takes me into Homestead ridege and then down the (alcoa) train line to get up to the freeway. Thats just because its easier for me ~ I have ridden the Bertram/Mortimer combination before and didn't find it *that* bad. Once Leda boulevard goes through (joining Wellard-Homestead Ridge) I'll be a very happy man.
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
Postby as7431 » Thu May 28, 2015 5:21 pm
Thanks for that advice (esp the train line to bail out and water location/food at Cockburn) - may be a good idea. But, for some unknown reason, I just dislike an "out and back" ride. No idea why, just much prefer a loop.nickobec wrote: To the OP, I have ridden Thomas and Anketell Road and would not recommend them, both are dangerous. The path along Thomas I avoid, it is badly maintained, over hanging branches, blind corners and concrete. I use back roads through Kwinana instead, but that does not suit your needs.
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Though if the aim is for a metric century, I would ride down the freeway PSP to Roe, ride up Roe PSP, turn round, ride back turn south onto the freeway PSP, ride as far as you need for the century and turn around and head home. That way you have train stations to bail out at. There is a great little shipping container cafe in the space west of the cockburn central train station were you can walk your bike to the counter, as well as water stops, the side path just after crossing the rail line after Roe Hwy heading south and south side of Mt Henry Bridge.
After all the advice (and considering my dislike of back tracking, I have been exploring an loop to the east of the PSP through Atwell and Aubin Grove starting at Beeliar/Armadale Rd ie:
Armadale Rd => Tapper Rd => Harper Rd => Liddlelow Rd => Gibbs Rd => Lyon Rd => Rowley => PSP and back up to Beeliar => Coast. Gives me 2 bail out points. One at Cockburn Station (hopefully not before the way back) at about 56km and on at Freo (AT) 75km. From then on I need just suck it up.
Again, thanks for all the advice - what did we do before the web
Tim
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Re: Kwinana PSP to Coast: Anketell Rd V Thomas Rd
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