Over the rail bridge on Welshpool Road and down Hale Road. Do it every day in peak hour and no big problem. If you don't like the road there is a bike path over the bridge but it is a bit agricultural.softy wrote:Good news,
BUT! How do you get from Orrong road to the start of the Gateway PSP?
They have closed the death bridge with concrete barriers, blocked of Chilsohlm street and the railway divides the two areas. Has anyone worked out a good route to get from the roe hwy PSP to the gateway PSP?
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PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby IncognitoMosquito » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:48 am
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby Scott_C » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:54 am
If by, "a bit agricultural", you mean completely missing for 10m. On the other hand if anyone is looking for a bit of mountain bike single track you know where to send them.IncognitoMosquito wrote:Over the rail bridge on Welshpool Road and down Hale Road. Do it every day in peak hour and no big problem. If you don't like the road there is a bike path over the bridge but it is a bit agricultural.softy wrote:Good news,
BUT! How do you get from Orrong road to the start of the Gateway PSP?
They have closed the death bridge with concrete barriers, blocked of Chilsohlm street and the railway divides the two areas. Has anyone worked out a good route to get from the roe hwy PSP to the gateway PSP?
Cheers
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby IncognitoMosquito » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:48 pm
Haha - That is exactly what I mean. It is gravel/limestone or similar on the other side of the bridge too but a little more prepared - but only a little. (perhaps "horticultural" rather than "agricultural"?) I see guys ride it on road bikes most mornings and evenings, but I wouldn't myself. My wife rides it in preference to the road but I ride on the road in both directions with no issues.Scott_C wrote:If by, "a bit agricultural", you mean completely missing for 10m. On the other hand if anyone is looking for a bit of mountain bike single track you know where to send them.
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby Troy C » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:56 pm
I have even made a starva segment for it
https://www.strava.com/segments/11630563?filter=overall
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby softy » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:19 pm
cheers got it!
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby chuckchunder » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:53 am
Rode this last night (after dark) and it only goes to Berkshire Rd.just4tehhalibut wrote:Okay there's also the new path heading north from the Tonkin/Roe meeting, signposted as heading to Midland and for 12km. I heard from someone who explored this some time ago that it only went as far as Berkshire Rd. Has this been extended?
For others unfamiliar with the area - at Berkshire Rd there is signage directing you north alongside the Roe Hwy. This seduces you with a nice smooth wide 3m shoulder (similar to Gt Northern Hwy out of Midland), after about a kilometre though reduces to a 1.2m shoulder with a good three inches of drop off on the edge and B doubles rolling past at 100kmh. Of course by then you can't turn back.
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby softy » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:57 pm
some places you can see erosion starting on the path. amazing how drainage is not considered for paths but does as much damage as it does to a road.
Just be aware out there, I almost came off when I hit a deep section of sand, washed onto the path at speed
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby Scott_C » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:13 pm
Cyclists are prohibited on Roe Highway near the Freeway. I don't think cyclists are allowed on the road until after Kalamunda Rd.
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby chuckchunder » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:00 pm
Long answer, the signs are not up yet at Welshpool Rd, so in my opinion in theory you could ride on the Hwy after that, but I would not recommend it at all, as with the road works happening between Welshpool and Tonkin Hwy you'd be sharing the lane as there is no shoulder. You'd get into bother at the Tonkin Hwy as the new configuration is open so you'd be using Fwy standard roads not designed to accommodate cyclists, and cyclists are prohibited from entering that section of the Tonkin Hwy and therefore the section of Roe Hwy north of that (not saying that Roe Hwy shoulder has ever been "designed" to accommodate cyclists). At Berkshire Rd cyclists are directed back onto the Roe Hwy shoulder, and then prohibited again between Bushmead Rd and through Gt Eastern Hwy to Morrison Rd in Midland.
Paths exist between the Kwinana Fwy and Welshpool Rd, Tonkin Hwy and Berkshire Rd, and Clayton St and (beyond Gt Eastern Hwy) Morrison Rd. The section between Welshpool Rd and the Tonkin Hwy is under construction.
Hope that helps?
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby foz » Mon May 16, 2016 6:27 pm
Just started using Tonkin Hwy from Guildford road..cutting through to the new bike path.
Have found it safe and quiet...apart from scooter today.Everybody says hello when you do..
I am wanting to go to Roe Hwy bike path..turn right , continue to just before railway line near Kenwick, turn right.
Then proceed to East Perth, bike path to Bayswater.
Rode today along side Leach Hwy to path end..Had to cut through back streets to Orrong rd..busy.
Took ages to cross,then cut through to rail line..
Thanks in advance for any help..I have to monitor my Blood sugar level..so any extra kms have to be taken in account..
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby softy » Mon May 16, 2016 8:39 pm
not to sure what you mean but the cycle path goes from Gt Eastern along Tonkin to just the other side of Roe hwy. The problem is they haven't built the section from Tonkin to Orrong along Roe Hwy yet so you need to get off at hardey east rd (the end of the PSP) then down Hale turn right onto Welshpool road east, over the railway bridge, under the Roe hwy, then get onto the cycle path at Orrong/Roe intersection, going west. This will take you to the kenwick turn off which takes you north along the Armadale railway back towards the city. hope this helps.foz wrote:Hi..I wonder if anybody could tell me if the bikepath continues from Leach Hwy..beside Tonkin Hwy , to Roe Hwy..please.
Just started using Tonkin Hwy from Guildford road..cutting through to the new bike path.
Have found it safe and quiet...apart from scooter today.Everybody says hello when you do..
I am wanting to go to Roe Hwy bike path..turn right , continue to just before railway line near Kenwick, turn right.
Then proceed to East Perth, bike path to Bayswater.
Rode today along side Leach Hwy to path end..Had to cut through back streets to Orrong rd..busy.
Took ages to cross,then cut through to rail line..
Thanks in advance for any help..I have to monitor my Blood sugar level..so any extra kms have to be taken in account..
Cheers
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby foz » Mon May 16, 2016 9:45 pm
Just the information I needed, will venture out that way on Wednesday, weather permitting, have a look at a paper street map and plan accordingly.
Along the Armadale to City rail link , the section of cycleway built is quite good, only Welshpool road to cross, that’s busy, the other minor cross roads are ok..
Cheers and thanks again.
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby Tazz » Tue May 17, 2016 12:21 am
Thank you for the extended answer. I've had a go at mapping a route from South Street to the Great Eastern Hwy. Are the sections of bike path correct?chuckchunder wrote:Short answer is bicycles are not allowed on the Roe Hwy between the Kwinana Fwy and Berkshire Rd, Forrestfield, and between Bushmead Rd and Morrision Rd in Midland. The shoulders are generally narrow (1.2m or less) and in poor condition including debris and potholes.
Long answer, the signs are not up yet at Welshpool Rd, so in my opinion in theory you could ride on the Hwy after that, but I would not recommend it at all, as with the road works happening between Welshpool and Tonkin Hwy you'd be sharing the lane as there is no shoulder. You'd get into bother at the Tonkin Hwy as the new configuration is open so you'd be using Fwy standard roads not designed to accommodate cyclists, and cyclists are prohibited from entering that section of the Tonkin Hwy and therefore the section of Roe Hwy north of that (not saying that Roe Hwy shoulder has ever been "designed" to accommodate cyclists). At Berkshire Rd cyclists are directed back onto the Roe Hwy shoulder, and then prohibited again between Bushmead Rd and through Gt Eastern Hwy to Morrison Rd in Midland.
Paths exist between the Kwinana Fwy and Welshpool Rd, Tonkin Hwy and Berkshire Rd, and Clayton St and (beyond Gt Eastern Hwy) Morrison Rd. The section between Welshpool Rd and the Tonkin Hwy is under construction.
Hope that helps?
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby wellington_street » Tue May 17, 2016 2:43 pm
There is now a PSP from the intersection of Hale/Tonkin along the north side of Tonkin and east side of Roe as far as Berkshire Rd. From here you can then go northbound on the shoulder (poor condition, narrow and missing through the Kalamunda Rd intersection) all the way to Bushmead Rd, where there is a path connection to Military Rd to avoid the Helena River section of Roe Hwy.Tazz wrote:Thank you for the extended answer. I've had a go at mapping a route from South Street to the Great Eastern Hwy. Are the sections of bike path correct?chuckchunder wrote:Short answer is bicycles are not allowed on the Roe Hwy between the Kwinana Fwy and Berkshire Rd, Forrestfield, and between Bushmead Rd and Morrision Rd in Midland. The shoulders are generally narrow (1.2m or less) and in poor condition including debris and potholes.
Long answer, the signs are not up yet at Welshpool Rd, so in my opinion in theory you could ride on the Hwy after that, but I would not recommend it at all, as with the road works happening between Welshpool and Tonkin Hwy you'd be sharing the lane as there is no shoulder. You'd get into bother at the Tonkin Hwy as the new configuration is open so you'd be using Fwy standard roads not designed to accommodate cyclists, and cyclists are prohibited from entering that section of the Tonkin Hwy and therefore the section of Roe Hwy north of that (not saying that Roe Hwy shoulder has ever been "designed" to accommodate cyclists). At Berkshire Rd cyclists are directed back onto the Roe Hwy shoulder, and then prohibited again between Bushmead Rd and through Gt Eastern Hwy to Morrison Rd in Midland.
Paths exist between the Kwinana Fwy and Welshpool Rd, Tonkin Hwy and Berkshire Rd, and Clayton St and (beyond Gt Eastern Hwy) Morrison Rd. The section between Welshpool Rd and the Tonkin Hwy is under construction.
Hope that helps?
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/13767657
When the current works on Roe from Tonkin to Welshpool are finished, there will be a PSP along the western side of Roe Hwy from Orrong/Welshpool to connect to the Tonkin Hwy PSP.
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby foz » Wed May 18, 2016 8:44 am
If only it wasn't raining now..will wait..sunshine looming..Xmas in December(joke)
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby wellington_street » Wed May 18, 2016 4:50 pm
There is now a map on the Main Roads website (scroll down to 'Project Map')Baalzamon wrote:I drive roe hwy to tonkin every day. From what I can see is that the bike path will go under the rail bridge and continue on the south side of roe hwy to orrong rd
https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/Buildin ... grade.aspx
It shows the PSP on the northern/western side of Roe Hwy and it looks like no bridge at Orrong Rd unfortunately.
Without any actual knowledge of the project, I suspect that the PSP will use part of the existing Roe Hwy bridge over the rail line, rather than a new bridge being built.
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby foz » Sun May 22, 2016 12:21 pm
Take extra care as its slippery..
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby foz » Mon May 23, 2016 3:35 pm
Cheers
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Re: PSP Roe Highway Tonkin Interchange
Postby chuckchunder » Sun May 29, 2016 8:33 pm
So, standing with my...er I mean his... back to the railway bridge -
And then walking back towards Chisolm Cres -
And then from Chisolm Cres looking back towards the bridge -
The way the path goes up to the bridge indeed suggests that it will use part of the current road deck on the bridge for the path. Of course as they are duplicating the bridge there will be plenty of room for this, as there are four lanes plus the shoulders on the current bridge.
looking forward to its completion.
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