our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
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our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby roller » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:30 am
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It looks so friendly, I just want to give it a hug.
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby Mububban » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:28 pm
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby Mububban » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:31 pm
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby dmwill » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:51 pm
No doubt makes it safer, but surely if there is a need for one, there is an increased risk/chance of a crash. Same reason certain motorsport disciplines with regular street cars require a cage.
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby Scott_C » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:40 pm
Even if only driven on sealed roads the major mining companies require all their 4wd vehicles to be fitted with roll cages. Sometimes roll cages are a sign of a commitment to safety rather than a sign of increased risk.dmwill wrote:Unsure if that roll cage is reassuring or not.
No doubt makes it safer, but surely if there is a need for one, there is an increased risk/chance of a crash. Same reason certain motorsport disciplines with regular street cars require a cage.
For example, the Tesla Model S has pretty much the highest roof crush resistance of any sedan out there but with a low centre of gravity from the underfloor batteries it is considerably less likely to roll over than an average ICE sedan. Your argument would seem to suggest that we should expect to see Tesla's flipping over all the time because they have been built with stronger roofs than other sedans.
In the specific case of this driverless bus it may be cheaper to build it with an exposed roll cage, providing additional hand-holds for passengers, than engineering a concealed structure that conforms to the bodywork and offers less protection.
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby StevOz » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:52 pm
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby softy » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:13 pm
At least bikes will still be controlled by people.
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby StevOz » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:28 pm
Really?..ebike+plug in mobile phone app set destination...no thanks...:psofty wrote:This will happen and also with cars, it is just a matter of time. The tech is already here. The biggest hurdle is countries legislation like design regulations. Companies like Audi have already announced they can produce autonomous cars.
At least bikes will still be controlled by people.
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby cj7hawk » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:54 am
What more do you want?
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby Baalzamon » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:07 am
Until someone hacks it..... Then it becomes a terror on the roadcj7hawk wrote:You guys are looking at this the wrong way - It's a cycle-friendly vehicle....
What more do you want?
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby piledhigher » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:22 am
Aren't cars/buses pretty much the ultimate insecure interface right now, there is nothing in the vehicle stopping any user with psychotic intentions.Baalzamon wrote:Until someone hacks it..... Then it becomes a terror on the roadcj7hawk wrote:You guys are looking at this the wrong way - It's a cycle-friendly vehicle....
What more do you want?
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That's the current terror on the road.
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby cj7hawk » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:32 am
That's absolutely correct.piledhigher wrote:Aren't cars/buses pretty much the ultimate insecure interface right now, there is nothing in the vehicle stopping any user with psychotic intentions.Baalzamon wrote:Until someone hacks it..... Then it becomes a terror on the roadcj7hawk wrote:You guys are looking at this the wrong way - It's a cycle-friendly vehicle....
What more do you want?
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That's the current terror on the road.
Current vehicle control systems have an analogue wet-ware control system that implements a Hate Any Two-wheeled Entities ( HATE ) algorythm, that automatically detects cyclists and randomly implement one of several key programming functions, including must-get-in-front and sorry-mate-I-didn't-see-you and occasionally run-them-down. Not so good for us.
On the other hand, these driverless systems however use the Look-for Other Vulnerable Entities ( LOVE ) system. They see a bike? They slow or stop, and give way to the cyclist. I hear a rider doing a track-stand can keep one of these vehicles amused for hours.
Cool eh?
I can't wait for more driverless vehicles... Wait until you see the congestion they cause. And by congestion, I mean severe congestion where older wet-ware vehicles are forced to drive for an additional minute or two per hour to avoid them.
Sure, the driverless vehicles can be hacked, and after about fifteen minutes of trackstanding in front of them, the contents of these new vehicles will probably be hacking at the front windscreen with their bloodied fingers to get at you - this is a good time to ride off.
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby Mububban » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:21 pm
You Dark Lords, always so negative!Baalzamon wrote:Until someone hacks it..... Then it becomes a terror on the road
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby billy70 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:59 am
Brilliant!cj7hawk wrote: Current vehicle control systems have an analogue wet-ware control system that implements a Hate Any Two-wheeled Entities ( HATE ) algorythm, that automatically detects cyclists and randomly implement one of several key programming functions, including must-get-in-front and sorry-mate-I-didn't-see-you and occasionally run-them-down. Not so good for us.
On the other hand, these driverless systems however use the Look-for Other Vulnerable Entities ( LOVE ) system. They see a bike? They slow or stop, and give way to the cyclist. I hear a rider doing a track-stand can keep one of these vehicles amused for hours.
Cool eh?
I can't wait for more driverless vehicles... Wait until you see the congestion they cause. And by congestion, I mean severe congestion where older wet-ware vehicles are forced to drive for an additional minute or two per hour to avoid them.
Sure, the driverless vehicles can be hacked, and after about fifteen minutes of trackstanding in front of them, the contents of these new vehicles will probably be hacking at the front windscreen with their bloodied fingers to get at you - this is a good time to ride off.
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Re: our problem buses could soon be a thing of the past
Postby Baalzamon » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:59 am
They need to do penetration testing on all smart things.... If penetration is successful that device should not be released to market until the holes are fixed. So will this driverless bus be penetration tested. Doubt it.Mububban wrote:You Dark Lords, always so negative!Baalzamon wrote:Until someone hacks it..... Then it becomes a terror on the road
Lets see the list of what it would be programmed to recognised
Cars, animals, trucks, buses, pedestrians, cyclists, traffic lights, traffic signs, policeman directions. If one of those things got tweaked in recognition terms then the end results will be nothing short of injury. This is why the speed is stuck at 25kph
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