Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Swanny » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:47 pm

and now some pics of the old bike serial No. 148375
I hope this links below work.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Tinker » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:07 pm

I'm going to go with a 1940 1 star there Swanny.

The decals and the lack of the state prefix are what I'm basing that on.

As always wiser heads than mine might be able to confirm or deny that.
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Swanny » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:10 pm

Thanks tinker. That's more info than I currently have. Cheers

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Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby smsh1 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:33 pm

smsh1 wrote:Hi Warren ,

New to the website and have been trawling through the forums for help.
I was wondering if you would be able to help identify my 2 star .
Serial Number 53446 (RHR Dropout)
28" ×1 3/8 Tyres
Leather 3 Spring saddle A.E Wilby Holloway Head
Sturmey Aw 3 Speed Hub
Sturmey Quadrant Shifter
BSA Cranks
BSA Pedals
All nuts and bolts are Whitworth.
Once I get enough posts up I show the old girl off.
Hand painted rims with frame color and pin striping.
lots of fine white detail.

Cheers
Steve
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby utedeej » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:01 pm

Cleaning up a treat!!

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Tinker » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:34 pm

That's a brilliant find. So much cycling history tied to that bike with the DeGrandi aspect added.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby smsh1 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:06 pm

Yes Tinker,
Its Ernest DeGrandi of the Warrnambool shop.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Tinker » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:13 pm

Where abouts did it end up? Always interesting to see where bikes have travelled from and ended up over time.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby smsh1 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:19 pm

It didn't leave town , I purchased it from Warrnambool. In original condition.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Tinker » Fri May 01, 2015 10:39 am

Lovely. You'll have to bring it down to Geelong one time when we have one of our vintage bike rides. Love to see it up close.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby smsh1 » Fri May 01, 2015 10:42 am

I live in Geelong[emoji1]

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Fri May 01, 2015 1:56 pm

Swanny, frame number #148375 would be 1939, as far as I know. I cant view your photos, is it a six pointed or 5 pointed Star? I have another 1 star recorded frame number 148216, with 6 pointed star.

Smsh1, frame number #53446 is 1935. The frame lugs, rear fork ends etc are consistant with this date. Hard to tell what model.

Warren

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Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby smsh1 » Fri May 01, 2015 6:34 pm

Thanks Warren,

Great was hoping it was some where in the thirties !

Cheers
SteveImage

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Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby smsh1 » Sun May 10, 2015 1:47 pm

Hi all,
Was chasing some help to identify bike frame I recently found.
It had no other markings other than the 6 pointed stars on the head and fork. Serial number 154522 is located on the LH side of the seat tube and 846 cast into the underside of the frame ?

Cheers
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby tassiebob » Sun May 10, 2015 2:46 pm

Hi all,
Not pre 1930 I know, but wondering if you had any clues on a 2 star (6 point) shop delivery bike no 1M 8430 I bought on ebay some months ago. Was fitted totally wrong wheels, rusted in seat post and head stem etc etc. I'm just about to get it running with an old Raleigh Sturmey Archer Dynohub spoked into a chrome 26" rim with a nice 2.15x26 road tyre, and a black (need a chrome one) 20" front wheel and 2.15X20 ribbed road tyre. Will post pics when it gets to that stage shortly. I suspect it's around 1940, but would appreciate your opinion. Cheers Bob.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby tassiebob » Sun May 10, 2015 2:49 pm

PS. Meant to say ser. no is on seat lug l/h/s, Bob.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sun May 10, 2015 3:40 pm

tassiebob wrote: 2 star (6 point) shop delivery bike no 1M 8430
that would appear to be in the 1940s format
1 = 1941, M = Melbourne build

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Bikerestore » Sun May 10, 2015 7:04 pm

Hi All

I have just restored my grandfather's Two Star Malvern Star with a mix of original and updated parts.

If anyone could give me the year of manufacture I'd be extremely grateful as it seems to be the first question everyone asks.

74456 is printed on the right rear dropout.

I have provided some images via Google drive if interested.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

Thanks.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby retrobikeforager » Mon May 11, 2015 11:07 pm

G'day warren or others. came across this sawn off delivery bike. Couldn't locate a serial number. It has Golden Mile written on the bottom tube, may indicate it ws used in the Goldfields. Any idea of the age?
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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Wed May 27, 2015 12:45 pm

Bikerestore wrote:Hi All

I have just restored my grandfather's Two Star Malvern Star with a mix of original and updated parts.

If anyone could give me the year of manufacture I'd be extremely grateful as it seems to be the first question everyone asks.

74456 is printed on the right rear dropout.

I have provided some images via Google drive if interested.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

Thanks.
Frame number 74456 would put in the year 1936. With those french ends, it would have been one of the high end models. Probably built for 28" wheels originally.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Wed May 27, 2015 12:51 pm

retrobikeforager wrote:G'day warren or others. came across this sawn off delivery bike. Couldn't locate a serial number. It has Golden Mile written on the bottom tube, may indicate it ws used in the Goldfields. Any idea of the age?
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Hard to say what year it was made without a serial number. Check left side of seat lug. There may also be a serial number repeated on the steerer tube, but you will have to take the fork out to check. My guess is that it is from the 1930's.
Golden Mile was also an annual track race at Bendigo, but a bit of a stretch to think they would name a buthchers bike after a track race.
Warren

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby tooslowtorace » Wed May 27, 2015 2:41 pm

Hi there, I'd be very interested in the collectives thoughts on the origins and age of my bike here, okay I am stretching a point as it is not branded as an MS, BUT it bears an uncanny resemblance to a MS currently up on ebay, the 5 figure serial number is in the same location and format as well as a number of the frame features. Mine is logoed "Climber" but nothing else. (my forks are not original, as is most of the running gear)

My "Climber" serial number 42239

Current ebay "2 Star Champ"
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My unknown "Climber"
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Thanks - in hope!

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Fri May 29, 2015 12:29 pm

If the red bike #42239 without stars was originally a Malvern Star, it would be from the 'plastic star' era in the late 1960's and early '70's. If the plastic star has been removed, there will be evidence, in that the two little holes in the head tube that the star plugged into, will still be there and bogged up or brazed up.
Have a look inside the head tube for the evidence.
Malvern Star did use those one piece head tubes during that period, on their low end bikes, (and so did lots of others.)
Malvern Star used some Japanese made generic forks in that era, similiar to those in that bike.
Warren

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby tooslowtorace » Fri May 29, 2015 12:56 pm

Thanks Warren, I was thinking 60s. I'm sure it's never been a MS as the paint is original and there are no holes in the head tube. Interestingly the inside of the tubes seems to have been treated with a yellow wax which I suspect was done when new although this may have been done at any time.

I'd be very surprised if it didn't come from the same manufacturing plant as the plastic star MS, any idea where that might have been?

You are correct that the forks are generic Japanese as they are stamped Tange on the steerer tube, these aren't original as they were in ex-works primer when I got it.

Still though my most fun bike to ride although far from quick and nimble.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Torana68 » Fri May 29, 2015 6:17 pm

tooslowtorace wrote:Thanks Warren, I was thinking 60s. I'm sure it's never been a MS as the paint is original and there are no holes in the head tube. Interestingly the inside of the tubes seems to have been treated with a yellow wax which I suspect was done when new although this may have been done at any time..
That yellow wax may indicate Asian make, as the cost to make here exceeded the cost to import lots started coming ending local manufacture, I have seen some "speedwell" branded frames that I believe are Asian made, with yellow waxed interior pipes. These are quite good frames although not of interest to me :)
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