Raleigh Twenty
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:27 pm
You've got to knock them out with a hammer if you cannot get your hands on a cotter-pin press. Support the crank with a hardwood block or a length of old steel seat-post (I happened to have one laying around just the right length). When you put the new cotter pins in you have to make sure they are in the right way. Insert the cotter pin from above with the crank facing toward the rear of the bicycle. (clear as mud?) I put a set in the wrong way around the first time (Murphy's law) and they were chewed up within a matter of days.
I greased the spindle and the cotter-pins a little to help them slide in more easily, and hopefully they will come out more easily when the time comes to pull the lot apart again. Some people reckon this is a good idea - it prevents the whole lot from rusting solid. Other people say it's a bad idea. At the moment I don't think there is much harm in it.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby stevecassidy » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:46 pm
My preference would be to get a new rim and rebuild the wheels on the existing hubs.
Velocity seem to list both 406 (small BMX) and 451 (what I have) Fusion rims but I can't find an online source in Australia who lists them. Does anyone have any pointers? Also, what's the ballpark cost of a new rim?
Cheers,
Steve
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby SeanB » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:08 pm
Here's a rim that may be suitable. (Just the first one I clicked - look at them all)
http://www.this link is broken/Mode ... elID=19954
I would like to get light new rims for my twenty too but it's not a priority atm.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:45 pm
I would like to get light new rims for my twenty too, but I just cannot afford it! I do have some Araya alloy BMX rims hung up somewhere - picked them up off council pick-up, 36-hole (I got hubs too), but cannot afford to pay for 72 new spokes and nipples. Well, not yet anyway.SeanB wrote:Check out c r c. Only thing is that free shipping doesn't kick in until your order over about $400.
Here's a rim that may be suitable. (Just the first one I clicked - look at them all)
http://www.this link is broken/Mode ... elID=19954
I would like to get light new rims for my twenty too but it's not a priority atm.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby stevecassidy » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:50 pm
I went into the LBS today and asked how much a new Velocity rim would be and was quoted around $90 per rim...I don't think I can afford it either. I too have some old BMX wheels but the size is so much different I don't think they'd work well - the BB would be too low with the smaller wheels and you'd get pedal strike too easily.hartleymartin wrote: I would like to get light new rims for my twenty too, but I just cannot afford it!
Looking overseas, one option seems to be the Alex R390 rim which can be had for around US$28 at various places including Amazon and eBikeStop and even in Australia at BMX International (a wholesaler - no price on the website - I've fired off an email to ask).
SeanB, didn't see the 451 size at c r c, just the smaller 405.
So, it looks like it might be an overseas order if I'm to do this. Any other suggestions?
Steve
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby SeanB » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:04 pm
so are these http://www.this link is broken/Mode ... elID=42485
Shipping on an order of two of these is about $40 bringing the total order up to just under $100 for two rims shipped.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby stevecassidy » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:00 pm
SeanB wrote:The ones I linked to are 451 sized.
Sorry, so they were, not sure where my brain went. But the US versions are a bit cheaper, a pair of the Alex rims from Amazon comes in at A$75 delivered as far as I can tell. Not sure if one is better than the other, they weigh the same so I'd imagine little difference.
Steve
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:08 pm
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:22 am
However, I seem to have misplaced one picture. Does anyone remember what I had up for February 2010?
November 2009: From Canberra, Australia
Thanks to Trevor Shone (Stackyard59) for the picture. I just wish that I could have made him an offer for it before it went on ebay. My mother and sister would have loved a purple one.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby kingfish254 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:40 am
I picked up another cool folder project the other day. It isn't a Twenty, but it is still kinda cool.
It is a 1960s Graziella Italian folding tandem with 16" wheels.
You can follow the progress or lack thereof at the link below:
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1948 Rudge - 1959 Schwinn Panther II - 1968 Columbia Roadster - 1979 Schwinn Spitfire 5
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby BrisBoy » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:58 am
You could always just bid on this one http://cgi.ebay.com.au/OLD-20-IN-RALEIG ... 20b05155a7hartleymartin wrote: I just wish that I could have made him an offer for it before it went on ebay. My mother and sister would have loved a purple one.
NFI by the way, just spotted it.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby kukamunga » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:20 am
Give Greenspeed in Knoxfield, Victoria a call. They had a heap of 451 and 405 rims being cleared out of their factory (amongst other things) about six months ago, though I've heard that Abbotsford Cycles may have bought most of the remaining stockstevecassidy wrote:didn't see the 451 size at c r c, just the smaller 405.
So, it looks like it might be an overseas order if I'm to do this. Any other suggestions?
Steve
I picked up some stuff from Greenspeed to build up my sons bike.....
.... a 3-speed, Raleigh 'twenty' (of sorts).....
Also, check this thread out.....
EDIT: Just been to Anaconda in Bayswater, and they had a number of narrow ISO/451 Tioga knobbies and 16" Schwalbe Marathons for $25 each
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:44 pm
Pick up only in Adelaide and I'm in Sydney.BrisBoy wrote:You could always just bid on this one http://cgi.ebay.com.au/OLD-20-IN-RALEIG ... 20b05155a7hartleymartin wrote: I just wish that I could have made him an offer for it before it went on ebay. My mother and sister would have loved a purple one.
NFI by the way, just spotted it.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:47 pm
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby cludence » Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:01 am
Thanks kingfish! I now know the brand of my folding tandem that I found thrown out. It is identical to yours!
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby kingfish254 » Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:29 am
Post a photo of your Graziella (or Grizzly as I have found they call them). Do you have the same ape hanger handlebars as mine?cludence wrote:I had a lovely mint black one. I gave it away to a friend down the coast for his wife.
Thanks kingfish! I now know the brand of my folding tandem that I found thrown out. It is identical to yours!
If you go to my link on bikeforums (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.ph ... ot-project) you will find some additional links to some Grizzly sites.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Mon May 03, 2010 9:30 am
How many Twenty's should you own? Well, I'd guess that 20 Twenty's is plenty. This bloke owns 3.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:37 am
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:51 am
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:05 am
Proof that you can have a Touring Twenty!
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby Cajaldura » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:27 pm
You will note that the bicycle is quite different from the Raleigh shopper. It has an integral rear rack and no stay on the bottom bracket. The bottom Bracket is threaded not in the Raleigh propitery thread but uses the Italian standard with two right hand threads. The folding mechanism is also different. Does anyone know anything about this model. eg when manufacured and how many were made.
It has the original short cranks in this picture and they were of benefit originally as it did not take as much knee movement to pedal. I have since fitted longercotterless Shimano 105 cranks, but intend to use only the one (inner) chain wheel.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:04 pm
When Raleigh discontinued the H-frame Twenty, they replaced it with U-frame bicycles like that. It appears that most had 22" x 1.75" wheels.
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby Torana68 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:54 am
this isnt correct, if you disassemble them incorrectly you will, as in smashing them with a hammer, if you use a cotter pin press (or similar there is a thread on it somewhere) as your supposed to you wont need to bother with the new rubbish pins
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Re: Raleigh Twenty
Postby hartleymartin » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:50 pm
Yeah, and how many people have a cotter-pin press handy? If anyone sends me one as a gift, I'll love them forever.Torana68 wrote:this isnt correct, if you disassemble them incorrectly you will, as in smashing them with a hammer, if you use a cotter pin press (or similar there is a thread on it somewhere) as your supposed to you wont need to bother with the new rubbish pinshartleymartin wrote:Cottered cranks should give you no troubles. When you disassemble the crankset you effectively destroy the cotter-pins, so have new ones ready. Unfortunately it seems that newer ones are much softer and poorer quality than the old ones.
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