Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

[biker jk]

Two 20-year olds from the Katusha feeder team banned for a year for anti-doping violations. But we don't know what they did (great transparency huh?).

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/two-ite ... iolations/

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Manolo Saiz is back and running a cycling team. Why does a sport with credibility problems tolerate these guys returning / staying in the sport?

[Xplora]

1. They don't believe the sport has credibility problems.
2. They don't believe that there was an offence committed.
3. They believe people deserve a second or third chance.

It can't be 3. Or can it? Cycling has some of the loosest "rules" around.

[find_bruce]

Manolo Saiz is back and running a cycling team. Why does a sport with credibility problems tolerate these guys returning / staying in the sport?

Can you keep Saiz out of cycling,but allow Riis to remain ? Cookson had some things to say on that recently

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Manolo Saiz is back and running a cycling team. Why does a sport with credibility problems tolerate these guys returning / staying in the sport?

Can you keep Saiz out of cycling,but allow Riis to remain ? Cookson had some things to say on that recently

My take on that is that dopers not only rob clean riders of opportunity, but they also rob clean and ethical support staff, coaches and managers from opportunities.

Of course you can run the sport without these people. It's a disgraceful attitude to say we can't.

[find_bruce]

Sorry if it wasn't clear Alex, the issue isn't whether you can run the sport without the cheats, as you say, of course you can.

The issue is whether the UCI can prevent people from participating when they haven't been banned in accordance with the rules

[herzog]

So the UCI needs to put in an accreditation system for team officials.

Other sports have this for coaches and player agents.

[Xplora]

The loss of dollars has diminished the quality of the back end quite a bit IMO over recent years. There have been an enormous number of motorcycle related accidents compared to previously, less well planned campaigns by dark horses, poor decision making in the peleton. Sure, bad things happen but my perception (flawed as it is) is that this has increased recently. I have the feeling that losing some of these unclean managers would make this situation worse.

I am ethically against the drug cheating, and support Alex's view - but I think there will be negative consequences in the racing.

[biker jk]

I missed this at the time but we may be heading for a sharp fall in the number of asthmatics in the pro peloton in coming years. Recall Froome's use of an inhaler in June 2014 having never before mentioned he was asthmatic.

The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) is funding research at the University of Tasmania to improve the testing regime for a common asthma drug suspected of enhancing athletic performance.

Dr Glenn Jacobson from the University of Tasmania's School of Medicine has received a grant from WADA to see if the permitted levels are appropriate.

Dr Jacobson said there was increasing evidence that salbutamol, the most commonly used asthma relief medication, was a performance enhancer.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-21/a ... er/6961068

[trailgumby]

Well they'd better come up with an alternative because if that is banned I can't compete in any MTBA sanctioned event.

[Mulger bill]

Well they'd better come up with an alternative because if that is banned I can't compete in any MTBA sanctioned event.

I doubt any alternative to Salbutamol wouldn't come with the same problems, by its very nature any bronchodilator will enhance performance in any non sufferer.

Methinks it's time to return the therapeutic use exemption and up the standards for asthmatic "accreditation".

[biker jk]

Well they'd better come up with an alternative because if that is banned I can't compete in any MTBA sanctioned event.

They don't need to ban it but need to reduce the allowed dosages from the current 16 puffs a day which is crazy.

[Calvin27]

Not sure if it belongs in this thread or deserves one of its own but check this out.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chris-f ... -released/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I make no claims to any biology knowledge so can't comment on anything about this other than my conclusion that if Froome went from nobody to hero by dropping a few kgs, then I should probably put the donut I am eating down.

[biker jk]

Not sure if it belongs in this thread or deserves one of its own but check this out.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chris-f ... -released/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I make no claims to any biology knowledge so can't comment on anything about this other than my conclusion that if Froome went from nobody to hero by dropping a few kgs, then I should probably put the donut I am eating down.

Indeed, he must have lost all the weight over the few weeks between the Tour of Poland and Vuelta a Espana in 2011 when he transformed from a nobody to an alien.

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Not sure if it belongs in this thread or deserves one of its own but check this out.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chris-f ... -released/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I make no claims to any biology knowledge so can't comment on anything about this other than my conclusion that if Froome went from nobody to hero by dropping a few kgs, then I should probably put the donut I am eating down.

Data seem about right to me, and tell us nothing wrt doping either way.

http://alex-cycle.blogspot.com.au/2015/ ... -hood.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[find_bruce]

Apparently a slim majority of cyclingnews readers think Pharmstrong's lifetime ban should be reduced.

Sorry guys I misunderstood the question - I agree with the lifetime ban, but I want it to be shorter.

[Mulger bill]

Apparently a slim majority of cyclingnews readers think Pharmstrong's lifetime ban should be reduced.

Sorry guys I misunderstood the question - I agree with the lifetime ban, but I want it to be shorter.

No problem with reduction in the sentence. Indeed, put a time limit on it.
2050 works for me...

[biker jk]

Juniors, masters and women all doping. Jeanson had a 56% haematocrit.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/british ... aking-epo/

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/genevie ... e-podcast/

[biker jk]

Not sure if it belongs in this thread or deserves one of its own but check this out.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chris-f ... -released/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I make no claims to any biology knowledge so can't comment on anything about this other than my conclusion that if Froome went from nobody to hero by dropping a few kgs, then I should probably put the donut I am eating down.

Swart's weight-loss hypothesis for Froome's performance gains rejected.

The take home summary of Swart’s GSK study is that it offers a failed hypothesis of a weight loss mechanism to explain the grand tour transformation and provides no significant evidence to decrease the prior probability of doping. Based on the presented data, it is an interesting uncontrolled observational study without much further implication.

http://veloclinic.tumblr.com/post/13487 ... k-thoughts

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Anyone who thinks such physiological testing will ever answer the doping status question is kidding. It just tells us a bit about the performance of the engine, not whether it's tuning involve legit or prohibited methods.

[biker jk]

This time a track cyclist.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bobby-l ... oxycodone/

[biker jk]

There have been quite a few positives so far this year but this one was most interesting. Reda finished second to Nibali in last year's Italian National Championship.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/frances ... -positive/

[Alex Simmons/RST]

caught reda handed

[ldrcycles]

caught reda handed

[Xplora]

The article on Reda is fascinating - it's his second ban, after the first ban was reduced because he gave evidence. Now... help me out here... he's still doping after being caught, and after flipping and giving evidence?!

Clearly pro cycling doesn't really understand that a lot of people hate dopers?! I appreciate many of them did it, it's a flawed culture, but wow.