2016 Tour de France
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2016 Tour de France
Postby toolonglegs » Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:14 pm
http://morzinesourcemagazine.com/tour-d ... red-route/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
13 July looks good... especially the start town
Villars-les-Dombes ... population 4500 incl me
I think Andorra should be on there though ... suppose we will see.
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby MichaelB » Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:20 am
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:20 pm
I am 99% sure they are going to Andorra but that is not on there... So don't trust it too much.
One that is sure to be back next year is Galibier.
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby MichaelB » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:24 am
In doing the planning for the 2016 Alps/Dolomites trip, I noticed that some climbs are Col de I'Iseran and some are Col du Galibier, and then some are Col de la Croix de Fer
What is the difference between the de, du and de la ?
Tried google, but couldn't seem to get anywhere
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby vbap_commuter » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:01 pm
Master that, and you'll be giving victory speeches on the Champs soon...
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Postby toolonglegs » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:53 pm
Col de la Croix de Fer . "Croix" is féminin ... La Croix. De is a préposition ... A linking word, in these instances it's like "of the" .
Col du Galibier, "Galibier" is masculin, Le Galibier, but you don't say "Col de le Galibier", you shorten "de le" to "du".
Now Iseran is also masculin, but in Français you can't have a word finishing with a vowel followed by a word starting with a vowel. So as you can't write "Col du Iseran", you extend "du" back out to "de le"... But as you also can't write "Col de le Iseran" with two vowels it becomes "de l' "
Now the silly part is it doesn't really matter if the word masculin or féminin, if it starts with a vowel, "du" will become "de l' " and "de la" will also become "de l' " .
Now near me I have the "Col des Portes" ... "Portes" being plural you use "des". Not to be confused with " Col de Porte" near Grenoble.
But just to confuse the issue... "Porte" on this instance probably refers to a name instead of a door / entry or "porte" in French. As it is "la porte" for a door.
Of course there is also a "Col de la Porte" somewhere else
So why is it not Col du Porte?... Well as you can see it's complicated when it comes to names, there isn't really a rule. You would need to go back in history to find out what the Porte actually refers to... A family name ( they don't have masculin or féminin ) , a place or a thing .... Hehe
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby MichaelB » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:20 pm
Almost sorry I asked. My head almost exploded
Thanks anyway. So it's like a him/her/it (der/die/das) is in German. Cool.
When is the next trivia night !!!!
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby MichaelB » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:33 pm
Velowire site
http://www.velowire.com/article/940/en/ ... ties-.html
Link to the image as it can change as more rumors surface and are filled in with detail
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby PhilMailloux » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:16 pm
toolonglegs wrote:So ,
Col de la Croix de Fer . "Croix" is féminin ... La Croix. De is a préposition ... A linking word, in these instances it's like "of the" .
Col du Galibier, "Galibier" is masculin, Le Galibier, but you don't say "Col de le Galibier", you shorten "de le" to "du".
Now Iseran is also masculin, but in Français you can't have a word finishing with a vowel followed by a word starting with a vowel. So as you can't write "Col du Iseran", you extend "du" back out to "de le"... But as you also can't write "Col de le Iseran" with two vowels it becomes "de l' "
Now the silly part is it doesn't really matter if the word masculin or féminin, if it starts with a vowel, "du" will become "de l' " and "de la" will also become "de l' " .
Now near me I have the "Col des Portes" ... "Portes" being plural you use "des". Not to be confused with " Col de Porte" near Grenoble.
But just to confuse the issue... "Porte" on this instance probably refers to a name instead of a door / entry or "porte" in French. As it is "la porte" for a door.
Of course there is also a "Col de la Porte" somewhere else
So why is it not Col du Porte?... Well as you can see it's complicated when it comes to names, there isn't really a rule. You would need to go back in history to find out what the Porte actually refers to... A family name ( they don't have masculin or féminin ) , a place or a thing .... Hehe
You know my first language is French and there's no way I could have explained it as well as that. There's only one thing I'm missing from this post. The explanation of what "masculin" and feminin" means. Masculin = male, feminin=female. Yes, there's male and female versions of words in the french language which makes it a major pita to learn and to spell properly (I can't write it for sh** and spent 13 years in the french school system...)
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby toolonglegs » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:25 pm
My wife is very good in French ( she is a French / Spanish / English interpreter / translator at Interpol ) ... she says that most French people can't write French correctly. Probably explains why I can't understand half the emails I get from my club, everything is so chopped up and shortened. Don't even go there with txt's!!!. My French is OK if it is a subject I know well ( ie: cycling and nothing else! ). I went for a job as a chef d’atelier but my language skills aren't good enough to deal with the public.
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby toolonglegs » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:17 pm
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby MichaelB » Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:29 pm
And you were right about Morzine.toolonglegs wrote:So above map was not right ... but still got a stage finish in my village
Anyways, how long does it normally take before they release the detailed route (i.e. the actual route of the stages on the road) ?
Looks like the 2nd week of my trip might be around the shores of Lac Leman
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby Calvin27 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:53 pm
If you repeat this years tdf without porte, Quitana comes out on top imo.
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby toolonglegs » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:40 pm
The actual maps can be much closer to the actual race. But for the mountain stages you can usually work out where it is going by the profile maps which are released pretty early... there are not that many road choices.MichaelB wrote:And you were right about Morzine.toolonglegs wrote:So above map was not right ... but still got a stage finish in my village
Anyways, how long does it normally take before they release the detailed route (i.e. the actual route of the stages on the road) ?
Looks like the 2nd week of my trip might be around the shores of Lac Leman
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby MichaelB » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:34 pm
Which stage ?toolonglegs wrote:So above map was not right ... but still got a stage finish in my village
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby toolonglegs » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:37 pm
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby MichaelB » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:44 am
Hmmm, might have to try and catch up, depending on where we aretoolonglegs wrote:Stage 14 on the 16th... Villars-les-Dombes. Definitely a sprint finish!.
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby toolonglegs » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:24 pm
If I am working the Saturday I will certainly try and get over to the Grand Colombier stage on the Sunday.
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby MichaelB » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:35 am
Sounds like a plan.toolonglegs wrote:No idea what I will be doing next July... But I will be around.
If I am working the Saturday I will certainly try and get over to the Grand Colombier stage on the Sunday.
atm, it looks like we'll be spending the last week near Lake Geneva to catch the action, as I'll probably fly out of Geneva (best connections)
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby Calvin27 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:29 pm
They are all in whirlpool.jasonc wrote:how come this thread has no legs?
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby warthog1 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:26 pm
Should be able to watch the whole glorious race.
Hanging for it to start.
They haven't had good ads for a few years. I hope they aren't too lame this year as they play them over and over.
Other than that expecting few laughs out of the commentary.
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Re: 2016 Tour de France
Postby jasonc » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:27 pm
and no longer called orica greenedgebiker jk wrote:New Orica kit for TdF. Lookls like Movistar.
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