Crapola!!!....P.E.D's in Cycling

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Postby fat and old » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:38 pm

What happened to Tiernan-Locke? The same excuse as Floyd....”I got pissed on the eve of the World Champs and was dehydrated” :lol: oh yeah....he’s British.

Or “my body is unique and secretes salbutamol instead of sweat when I excersise”. :lol:

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Postby AUbicycles » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:31 am

Jan Ullrich is still in the popular media in Germany and reported now out of treatment again for substance abuse. Nice enough fellow but troubled.
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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:37 am

AUbicycles wrote:Jan Ullrich is still in the popular media in Germany and reported now out of treatment again for substance abuse. Nice enough fellow but troubled.
Nice enough to cause harm to others on a seemingly regular basis. Chocking a woman until she passes out is not my definition of nice. Being arrested for breaking into your neighbour's home, threatening and assaulting them them is not nice. Persistently driving while under the influence of alcohol and cocaine is not nice. Surrounding yourself with drug dealers is not nice. Driving your car into bicycles are then fleeing the scene is also not my idea of nice.

This is one example of the carnage he caused, putting others into hospital:
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Troubled - yes.

Needs help, yes (has persistently refused help for more than a decade - his first wife left him because he refused to get help).

Amazing bike rider (despite the doping) - yes, a phenomenal talent.

Nice - no.

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Postby MichaelB » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:41 am

Hopefully he has found rock bottom and finally gets himself sorted.

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Postby fat and old » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:28 pm

It's a crying ass shame what the Jan is doing to himself. I still pull out the Rudy Tayo's and Telekom gilet now and then. My all time fav. rider...in a manly way of course :lol:

I note that Armstrong continues his road to redemption using this. Maybe there's genuine concern, maybe not. He did make sure we knew about it.

And on that, I note that Cycling Tips is an enabler!!!!

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Postby AUbicycles » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:59 pm

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Nice - no.
When I meet him and translated in an interview, my impression was 'nice enough fellow'. This was after the Telekom days, night club sagas and, if I recall, after one crash. Hope this context clarifies the comment.
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Postby find_bruce » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:32 am

In the Siutsou - positive for EPO

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Postby biker jk » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:55 am

find_bruce wrote:In the Siutsou - positive for EPO
Last roll of the dice to pick up a contract for 2019. BM had informed him in June there was no contract for 2019.

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Postby MichaelB » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:23 pm

biker jk wrote:
find_bruce wrote:In the Siutsou - positive for EPO
Last roll of the dice to pick up a contract for 2019. BM had informed him in June there was no contract for 2019.
Wonder why he had been told so early - non-performing or some other non-mentionable reason ? Was in the Giro team ....

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Postby MichaelB » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:28 am

Valverde: I never tested positive

World champion defends his career after questions concerning Operacion Puerto


Oh yeah, neither did Pharmstrong ... :roll:

This is going to be a loooooooong year :|

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Postby find_bruce » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:06 pm

So can anyone explain (1) why it took 16 months to decide to ban Cardoso & (2) the satisfactory explanation for the lack of confirmation in the B sample ?

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Postby MichaelB » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:32 pm

Didn’t have expensive lawyers like Sky ....

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Postby g-boaf » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:18 am

Armstrong makes a huge windfall from Uber investment:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-li ... 28dbee520c

I wonder how many people now won't be using Uber because of that?

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Postby RonK » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:14 pm

Perhaps the noose is slowly closing. How long will Freeman keep taking the flak once the Sky money dries up.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... stosterone
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Postby biker jk » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:28 pm

RonK wrote:Perhaps the noose is slowly closing. How long will Freeman keep taking the flak once the Sky money dries up.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... stosterone
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Postby MichaelB » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:16 pm

MichaelB wrote:
biker jk wrote:Team Sky employee interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8o7RNL-mHI
LOVE IT
Given the Freeman stuff, timely repost ...

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Postby MichaelB » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:45 am

Oh surprise, Dr Freeman misses the 1st day of his hearing .... :roll:

Apparently asks for a 48 hour delay for reasons that can't be given, but appears to be health related .....

Nothing dodgy here ....

Mental illness (he's reportedly struggled with depression in the past) is not something to be taken lightly, but you have to wonder what is really going on ? Abuse of legal process or real personal health ?

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Postby biker jk » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:24 am

MichaelB wrote:Oh surprise, Dr Freeman misses the 1st day of his hearing .... :roll:

Apparently asks for a 48 hour delay for reasons that can't be given, but appears to be health related .....

Nothing dodgy here ....

Mental illness (he's reportedly struggled with depression in the past) is not something to be taken lightly, but you have to wonder what is really going on ? Abuse of legal process or real personal health ?
Freeman is trying to outdo Puneet Puneet. Or perhaps delay to after the statute of limitation for Wiggins 2011 Dauphine win expires.

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Postby biker jk » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:37 pm

Looks like I was right about Freeman's delaying tactics designed to stop UKAD pursuing a case relating to the Dauphine in May 2011.

The medical hearing for former Team Sky and British Cycling doctor Richard Freeman is in danger of descending into farce amid concerns that delays could prevent UK Anti-Doping from acting on any new evidence.

The Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service hearing was due to start last week, having been allocated 20 days in Manchester from February 6.

But an initial application for a 48-hour adjournment by Freeman's legal team has been followed by further preliminary legal application that the MPTS now expect to continue for the remainder of this week.

That means it could be day nine before the tribunal that centres on an allegation that Freeman ordered the banned drug Testosterone for an athlete in May 2011 formally begins, making it most unlikely that a conclusion will be reached by March 5.

If the tribunal is only part-heard, it would then be a case of reconvening and that becomes difficult logistically with lawyers, as well as witnesses, potentially booked up later in the year. Indeed there are concerns that the hearing may not be concluded this side of Christmas.

Any date beyond May this year would be a potential problem, not least for UKAD when the statute of limitations for an alleged doping offence in May 2011 was eight years.


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Postby MichaelB » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:37 pm

As Gomer Pyle would say

"Surprise, surprise, surprise"

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Postby MichaelB » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:15 pm

And another one caught !!

Denifl admitted to using blood bags. Wonder if the 'personal reasons' he left CCC in Dec 2018 (after signing on October) is code form them 'finding out' .....

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Postby biker jk » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:22 pm

MichaelB wrote:And another one caught !!

Denifl admitted to using blood bags. Wonder if the 'personal reasons' he left CCC in Dec 2018 (after signing on October) is code form them 'finding out' .....

:roll:
He wasn't flagged by the athlete biological passport, highlighting it's clearly being abused. Blood bag doping is so old school.

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Postby find_bruce » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:38 pm

Snap - I was just about to post that it seems the biological passport doesn't prevent blood doping -Stefan Denifl confesses to blood doping in police interview. Given the way the passport focuses on change, I wonder if it would detect if he stopped doping?

Still at least he's not a card cheat.

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Postby MichaelB » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:42 pm

And now Preidler “confesses” to thinking about it but not actually doing it .....

Yeah ....

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Postby fat and old » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:51 pm

find_bruce wrote:
Still at least he's not a card cheat.
:lol: Exactly how does a bridge player enhance his performance? :lol:

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