can i use wax and grease remover to clean rims
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can i use wax and grease remover to clean rims
Postby davehirst » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:04 pm
thanks
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Postby Mulger bill » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:18 pm
Can't see much wrong if you drop the wheels out and make sure there's no residue left once done
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Postby open roader » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:13 pm
Acetone is what I use now, both alloy and carbon brake tracks - have been doing this for 4 years on all sorts of fancy and cheap wheels with no cons, just clean brake tracks.
As for brake pads, remove them and gently emery them back with a fine grade wet and dry paper say 1200 grit > blow the dust/debris off than wipe clean with acetone.
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Postby Nate » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:20 pm
+1 on acetoneopen roader wrote: Acetone is what I use now, both alloy and carbon brake tracks - have been doing this for 4 years on all sorts of fancy and cheap wheels with no cons, just clean brake tracks.
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Re: can i use wax and grease remover to clean rims
Postby find_bruce » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:27 pm
Unlike acetone it won't remove your nail polish
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Postby Patt0 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:50 am
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Postby ironhanglider » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:44 pm
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Re: can i use wax and grease remover to clean rims
Postby Nate » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:34 pm
that'll leave an oily residue behind - CAUTION!!!Patt0 wrote:I use mineral turps for cleaning all the hard surfaces of my bike. Takes road tar off with a single swipe and leaves no residue.
also attacks rubber
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Postby RonK » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:09 pm
I just use ordinary household cleaning products - Ajax Spray 'N' Wipe and a Chux cloth to remove road grime and a ScotchBrite scourer pad with water to clean brake tracks if required.
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Re: can i use wax and grease remover to clean rims
Postby Patt0 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:02 pm
Alcohols are too polar for road grime and chain lubes.
I use turps, white spirit is probably a better name, because it's handy when I am cleaning the chain.
Works good as a tyre conditioner .
Nate, Don't know where you get the idea it leaves a residue. Maybe try google.
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Postby HappyHumber » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:12 pm
somewhere along the line, I quite serendipitously picked up a small rasp file which I now keep amongst my bike tools for giving each pad a quick 3 or 4 light rubs with to remove the smoothed glaze. No need to heavily gouge; just rough over the surface very lightly.
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Postby ironhanglider » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:39 pm
White Spirit is the literal translation of the Chinese vodka-like drink Bai Jiu I suspect it makes a better chain cleaner than drink.Patt0 wrote: I use turps, white spirit is probably a better name, because it's handy when I am cleaning the chain.
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Re: can i use wax and grease remover to clean rims
Postby Trevtassie » Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:53 pm
But yeah, wax and grease remover is ok for rims. It's a mixture of solvents made to evaporate and not leave a residue.
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Postby find_bruce » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:19 pm
White spirit $8.25
Shelite $7.98
Acetone $10.95
If you prefer to look at chemistry via MSDS
White Spirit 1,2,4-Trimethyl benzene[/url] <10%; 1,3,5-Trimethyl benzene <10%; Xylene <10%
Mineral turps Cumene <10%; Xylene 10-30 %; 1,3,5-Trimethyl benzene 10-30 %; 1,2,4-Trimethyl benzene 30-60% 1,2,3-Trimethyl benzene <10%; n-Propyl benzene <10%
Shelite n-Hexane 10–30%; Toluene <5%
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Re: can i use wax and grease remover to clean rims
Postby Patt0 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:45 am
That may be so. I earned my degree in chemistry under the UK system so I will use UK definitions and spellings, ie litre instead of liter. Not that a degree is a worthy metric. I have forgotten more about chemistry than most new grads know.ironhanglider wrote:White Spirit is the literal translation of the Chinese vodka-like drinkPatt0 wrote: I use turps, white spirit is probably a better name, because it's handy when I am cleaning the chain.
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Anyway back on topic. A wax and grease remover doesnt pick up the wax etc and evaporate with it. It dissolves the contaminant, making mechanical removal easy.
-Like dissolves like. Mineral turps, grease and wax etc are all hydrocarbons. The difference is their length.
-These three are incrementally longer than the previous. ( They are actually mixtures and can overlap).
So, at a party, those three are swinging! You might be thinking that tin of wax and grease remover is mineral turps! well you would be about 50-99% correct. Mineral turps is a bit of a soup. A bit more refinement to exclude the lighter or shorter compounds is desirable, but is not always the case. Depends of feedstocks, operator, customer requirements and component prices etc. The lighter constituents dont negatively impact the discussed product, except they are worthless, a bit like filler. Their volatility is higher so they are less likely to hang around waiting for the rag to remove them.
Also included is~1 percent of acetone for a little polarity.I would not doubt that they have new additives these days. Probably to help dissolve silicones.
Disclosure: this post was written with the aid of google .
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Re: can i use wax and grease remover to clean rims
Postby davehirst » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:28 pm
buggeryshit it should be clean now
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Re: can i use wax and grease remover to clean rims
Postby HappyHumber » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:25 am
Cool. Now see if you can keep up that level of thoroughness each time you do it. Most of us find our middle point of technique & recipe in time.davehirst wrote:so i ..... buggeryshit it should be clean now
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