Weight loss through cycling
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby winstonw » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:21 am
bradycardia is more an issue if you have a low HRmax. what's yours?
what's your BP doing these days?
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby toolonglegs » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:48 pm
My max 3 years ago was 192-194.
Anyway... might start another thread as this off topic sort of... except for the bananas .
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby casual_cyclist » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:32 pm
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby twizzle » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:16 pm
Long-chain glucose molecules, it's broken down by saliva and pancreatic enzymes, but from memory you still need one of the disaccharide enzymes to finish the process. So if you small intestine is stuffed, you won't absorb it well. But you wouldn't absorb sugar well either. But your intestinal flora might extract a lot of energy from either. Not simple, eh?casual_cyclist wrote:This guy claims to have lost weight by quitting "sugar" but still eats dextrose. Isn't dextrose a "sugar"?
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby casual_cyclist » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:57 am
Nope. Not simple at all.twizzle wrote:Long-chain glucose molecules, it's broken down by saliva and pancreatic enzymes, but from memory you still need one of the disaccharide enzymes to finish the process. So if you small intestine is stuffed, you won't absorb it well. But you wouldn't absorb sugar well either. But your intestinal flora might extract a lot of energy from either. Not simple, eh?casual_cyclist wrote:This guy claims to have lost weight by quitting "sugar" but still eats dextrose. Isn't dextrose a "sugar"?
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby twizzle » Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:12 pm
In th context of the article, the reason to avoid 'sugar' is because it contains fructose which is processed by the liver and causes an increase in blood sugar without a major response for insulin or satiety.
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:21 pm
He could of just saved himself a lot of time and brought everything in its natural state. Vegetables and fruit don't have labels.casual_cyclist wrote:This guy claims to have lost weight by quitting "sugar" but still eats dextrose. Isn't dextrose a "sugar"?
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby twizzle » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:48 pm
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby clackers » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:55 pm
Of course it is - possibly nothing with a higher GI or insulin response.casual_cyclist wrote:This guy claims to have lost weight by quitting "sugar" but still eats dextrose. Isn't dextrose a "sugar"?
Stop reading and posting pseudoscience, CC!
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby clackers » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:56 pm
Blanket statement, Twizzle?twizzle wrote:Ahhhh... But not so cheap. Eating healthy is expensive.
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby casual_cyclist » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:12 pm
Why?clackers wrote:Of course it is - possibly nothing with a higher GI or insulin response.casual_cyclist wrote:This guy claims to have lost weight by quitting "sugar" but still eats dextrose. Isn't dextrose a "sugar"?
Stop reading and posting pseudoscience, CC!
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby casual_cyclist » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:13 pm
http://gameauland.com/thatsugarfilm/201 ... ckly-sweetWe get very caught up in calories in this society and I understand that. But I don't think humans should have to count calories, we aren't born with an abacus strapped to us. We are supposed to have a balanced food system, labels that actually tell the truth and honest food companies that care about health over profit
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:06 pm
Eating healthy I am sure was expensive for you Twiz on your paleo diet ... meat is bloody expensive. I think my diet is a little cheaper ... but compared to your average non exerciser it is probably not far off ... 15 hours a week probably doubles the normal food intake!.
At 99 cents a kilo for banana's, I am glad my blood tests said all was ok with my Potassium .
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby clackers » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:41 pm
Because it's misinformation about a very important topic.casual_cyclist wrote:Why?clackers wrote:Of course it is - possibly nothing with a higher GI or insulin response.casual_cyclist wrote:This guy claims to have lost weight by quitting "sugar" but still eats dextrose. Isn't dextrose a "sugar"?
Stop reading and posting pseudoscience, CC!
You've now linked to Damon Gameau.
As in, Benji from Underbelly?
Why not also ask him what we should do about Syria?
He is *not* medically trained.
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby clackers » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:49 pm
Ah, I see .... the 'p' word.toolonglegs wrote: Eating healthy I am sure was expensive for you Twiz on your paleo diet ...
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby winstonw » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:01 pm
+1...toolonglegs wrote:He could of just saved himself a lot of time and brought everything in its natural state. Vegetables and fruit don't have labels.casual_cyclist wrote:This guy claims to have lost weight by quitting "sugar" but still eats dextrose. Isn't dextrose a "sugar"?
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I mean like Say What....he said he started doing research to stop his wife going Diabetes Type 2. Gees. why not just listen to your GP or dietitian mate?
and then he says when on the Gillespie diet, favorite foods included brownies and ice cream.....though he also says he doesn't crave sugar.
This has to be the dumb fat mug's equivalent of BRO SCIENCE! --> HOMER SCIENCE
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby twizzle » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:58 pm
A relatively true generalisation. Fresh fruit and vege at the lowest prices still cannot beat supermarket frozen. Calories-per-dollar is hard to beat as well.clackers wrote:Blanket statement, Twizzle?twizzle wrote:Ahhhh... But not so cheap. Eating healthy is expensive.
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby twizzle » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:03 pm
As mention previously repeatedly -"paleo like". Which just means I avoid processed foods where possible. Winter and a lack of cooking time has not been kind on that front, but on the digestive front I have been very lucky to get away with it.toolonglegs wrote:Eating healthy I am sure was expensive for you Twiz on your paleo diet ... meat is bloody expensive.
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby casual_cyclist » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:54 pm
What misinformation? I'm not telling anyone what to do (unlike some others on this thread), I'm simply posting links to articles I have found interesting. People can make up their own minds about whether they follow the advice in the article or not. You will note that I deliberately did not endorse the claims made in the article.clackers wrote:Because it's misinformation about a very important topic.casual_cyclist wrote:Why?clackers wrote:Stop reading and posting pseudoscience, CC!
No one said he is medically trained. He is also not providing medical advice or providing any advice about what to do about Australia's burgeoning sugar consumption. What is your point? Under medical supervision (a Doctor, Chemical Pathologist and a Nutritionist), Damon is eating 40 teaspoons of sugar a day from supposedly "healthy" food sources. He is being monitored by a team of doctors and scientists from Australia, New Zealand and the USA. I'm not sure exactly what is unscientific about that?clackers wrote:You've now linked to Damon Gameau.
As in, Benji from Underbelly?
Why not also ask him what we should do about Syria?
He is *not* medically trained.
If you want a link to a scientific paper... here's one: http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/c ... -10-45.pdf
"Removing sugar without replacement is obviously
good for weight loss but practically speaking, if we want
to reduce sugar consumption isocalorically, we must
consider whether to replace sugar with starch or with
another nutrient, usually fat. There are numerous studies
showing the benefit of the latter approach but few demonstrating
the value of the former."
So it is good to replace sugar with fat?
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby casual_cyclist » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:06 pm
http://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f5001Eating more fruit, particularly blueberries, apples and grapes, is linked to a reduced risk of developing type-2 diabetes, suggests a study in the British Medical Journal
The research looked at the diets of more than 187,000 people in the US.
However, "The studies used food frequency questionnaires to follow up the participants every four years, asking how often, on average, they ate a standard portion of each fruit."The researchers' analysis of the data showed that three servings per week of blueberries, grapes and raisins, and apples and pears significantly reduced the risk of type-2 diabetes.
Dr Matthew Hobbs, head of research for Diabetes UK, said the links between type-2 diabetes and specific types of fruit or fruit drinks should be treated with caution.
So, whole fruit can reduce the risk of developing type-2 diabetes to a greater extent than fruit juice... or can it? I think I will roll the dice, assume it can, and keep eating fruit!Some of the findings are based on a number of assumptions and models which may have distorted the results significantly.
For example, the researchers used surveys to ask participants how often they ate certain foods. This type of survey can often be unreliable as people are more likely to remember certain types of food.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23880701
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
Postby toolonglegs » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:40 pm
Hitting the magic numbers now on the scales after rides ... will not be long till I see the same waking up. Lightest I have been since placing in the Canberra 24hr back in 2000 .
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Re: Weight loss through cycling
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