BNA Losers Club 2014

[toofat]

time for some motivation
foget fatty friday
its Mega-lean Monday (well not yet)
monday April 14th 95.6 kg

[TonyMax]

18/3 - 82.1
31/3 - 83.8
7/4 - 84.2
14/4 - 84.2 at least I have stopped the rot, commuting on Wednesday hopefully and back on the lunch time lake laps this week.

[Stefan_A]

A question I have is am I better off increasing the duration of rides or the number of them to lose the weight (now I'm not putting so much time into it, each time I ride, to improve the speed is no longer the goal)

nice weight loss John.

as for ride type, longer rides tend to do less for weight loss. they are more likely to stimulate appetite, and you have to refuel from the 2nd hour onwards considerably.

shorter rides don't stimulate your appetite as much....

Therefore, it's a given you will lose more weight doing 10x25km commute rides M-F each week, than 1x250km ride on Saturday.
Further, it's a good idea to do your morning commute with nothing in your belly other than a litre of water and a double shot espresso. Doing so leads to higher % of energy needs met by fat reserves, which the caffeine helps mobilize. Just be sure not to binge eat after the ride. Tracking Calories in/out is always the surest way to reach short term weight loss goals.

[casual_cyclist]

It might be a bit late, but I've made some losses since the start of the year.

It's never too late! All are welcome at any time.

The weight?
Jan 1 85+kg
April 1 77 kg

Very good work so far.

70 kg would be nice by June - Realistic? I'm 168 cm and on the wrong side of 60. I'm not worried about going bang. (recent physical. Real good stats)

I'm not sure that setting arbitrary goals at this point is particularly constructive. Personally, I would focus in eating healthy food (but not too much ) and exercising well.

A question I have is am I better off increasing the duration of rides or the number of them to lose the weight (now I'm not putting so much time into it, each time I ride, to improve the speed is no longer the goal)

Personally, I have not had any luck with exercising to lose weight. I have found exercise to be great for fitness, mood, muscle tone etc, but I have lost the most weight when I ate well, not from exercise. Focus on your food intake for your weight and exercise for fitness and fun.

I always say "Eat for your waist, exercise for your heart"

[anttismo]

Personally I try to avoid anything I don't like. Not much long term benefit in doing something for only short term for only weeks or months, so trying to establish something long term lifestyle wise is good.

I've also had a lot of experince with putting on and losing weight, having been over 200kg before, being about 100kg now. I have lost weight while eating healthy, while eating crap, while excercising, while not exercising. I have also gained weight while eating healthy, while eating crap, while excercising, while not exercising. For me it always just worked nicely from a calories in vs calories out point of view.

So I stick with the diet I like best. Eat whatever the heck I like - and boy do I like processed foods, sugar, and all manner of other evil stuff. I just make sure my intake of calories remains in check with my expenditure and weight remains largely constant. I also like cycling, so I do that a lot. No need to force these 2 things on me - cycling and processed foods. Love them

If I want weight down I eat less, move more.

If I want up I eat more, move less. I don't ever recall specifically wanting my weight to rise, although I have let it rise. A lot at times

Luckily it is that simple for me.

I guess these "macro nutrient target" type folk would be close to my philosophy. Like the link comedian posted earlier...

http://www.healthylivingheavylifting.co ... t-me-lean/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I should point out I *may* be in terrible health. Of course I don't *seem* to be in bad health as far as stuff doctors measure go, but it *may* be true. I've been told by a lot of people that there will be dire consequeces to my diet high in processed foods, but I have yet to see them. I have also been told that there may be dire consquences to listening to rock and roll music, playing with matches and not attending church, but I have to see those either. One day I will know for sure

Anyway, not to overly trivialise things, but try and find stuff you like. It makes it easy to do them long term

[casual_cyclist]

I've also had a lot of experince with putting on and losing weight, having been over 200kg before, being about 100kg now.

you lost a whole fat person!!!!

Anyway, not to overly trivialise things, but try and find stuff you like. It makes it easy to do them long term

Totally true. No point being "thin" and miserable. I have strived to be healthier and happier by living a healthy lifestyle. Not being "thin" and miserable by flogging myself with exercise and depriving myself of the foods I love. A few kilos down in a few weeks indicates that it seems to be working.

[ramonr]

Started this year at 118.5 kg.
Now at 105.6 kg.

All through Aktins and the appetite control of being in ketosis.
Endurance was woefully when first started exercising on Atkins diet compared to previous times I was riding. But constantly seeing improvement in endurance without any carbs.
Lose at least 1/2 kilo when go on 50 km rides without eating anything before or during ride.
Main problem I have is that I am needing to replace electrolytes but can't find any low carb ways.

[anttismo]

Interesting stuff ramonr. Being so heavily fuelled by carbs myself, I know I'm cactus after a few hours without carbs during exercise. Be awesome once (if??) your body adjusts to being without carbs and you can still operate at high intensities. Being able to ride say 4 hrs at 80% intensity without eating would be awesome. In principle you could do many, many hrs, even days, perhaps weeks without eating

[casual_cyclist]

fatty friday weigh in:

28/03/2014: 95 kg
04/04/2014: 94 kg
11/04/2014: 92 kg
18/04/2014: 93 kg

It took me a while but I finally got re-hydrated

[Aussiebullet]

Less carbs = less fitness if your a serious endurance athlete,
there's no way I'd be able to rack up consecutive 200 - 300TSS quality training sessions let alone be in any decent race form If I or anyone else were truly in ketosis the whole time, it's just not possible nor desirable.

Sep 2013 77kg
Feb 2014 65kg
That's 15.5% of my body weight all in a carb fuelled state, racing like every season was better than the last season, always improving.
Then in march went to New Zealand for a 10 day holiday and put on 3kgs, dropped 1.5kg within the first few weeks back on the bike next 1.5kg will be a bit slower but I have time on my side, although getting rid of it before the Cootamundra
State Open double header weekend next month would be nice.

[ramonr]

Rode 50.3 km in 2:40 mins all without carbs at average 81% max heart rate.
No increased hunger afterwards.
I know that my riding is suffering but currently riding for weight loss and enjoyment , accomplishing both at the moment.

[Aussiebullet]

Under 66kg's so decided to give the Warburton RR a crack, should be a good hit out and tune up for Coota next month.
Most likely be down another kilo or so by then the way things are going so just need to get my taper dialled in and should be able to hang with goats on the climbs this year.

[PapaJohn]

Thanks for your comments and words of encouragement Stefan_A and Casual_Cyclist.

I had noticed the tendency to "make up for" energy expended, in an appetite rebound. but haven't managed to tie it strongly to longer or more frequent rides. I like the suggestion of water and caffeine as a mobilizer.

My weight loss is ALL due to exercise. No exercise ceased Jan 1. NO weight loss occurred in Jan, however my body began to change shape, as some fat was replaced by muscle bulk.

I do not weigh myself more often than monthly, and then when I do, its as near to the same hydration state as I can each time.

Whoever the commercial genius was that tied the consumption of chocolate to Easter I hope died a slow death as a cardiac patient.

The main thing is to enjoy riding. There are many ways to make a ride enjoyable and interesting.

[newie]

26 Feb 62.5 kg
26 Apr 61.1 kg

[casual_cyclist]

My weight loss is ALL due to exercise. No exercise ceased Jan 1. NO weight loss occurred in Jan, however my body began to change shape, as some fat was replaced by muscle bulk.

Yeah, my flatmate loses weight when exercising (and eating sensibly). For me it makes no difference. It is all down to what I eat.

[casual_cyclist]

fatty friday weigh in:

28/03/2014: 95 kg
04/04/2014: 94 kg
11/04/2014: 92 kg
18/04/2014: 93 kg
25/04/2014: 91.5 kg

[anttismo]

Ok, I want to play your game too. After 3 years kicking around 100kg and being pretty happy about things, thought it's time to do something different. So a workmate and myself at racing each other to 90kg. So it'll be an interesting little project for me, especially coming into winter. Our target is 6 months, so by Nov 1, which is about 2 kg a month. I'm interested to see how my body will react, and if nothing else, they say a change is as good as a holiday

[casual_cyclist]

Ok, I want to play your game too. After 3 years kicking around 100kg and being pretty happy about things, thought it's time to do something different. So a workmate and myself at racing each other to 90kg. So it'll be an interesting little project for me, especially coming into winter. Our target is 6 months, so by Nov 1, which is about 2 kg a month. I'm interested to see how my body will react, and if nothing else, they say a change is as good as a holiday

2kg a month is a good rate and should be achievable. All the best!

[casual_cyclist]

fatty friday weigh in:

28/03/2014: 95 kg
04/04/2014: 94 kg
11/04/2014: 92 kg
18/04/2014: 93 kg
25/04/2014: 91.5 kg
02/05/2014: 92 kg

[Mugglechops]

15/02/14 122.3kgs
22/02/14 120.2kgs
01/03/14 119.8kgs
08/03/14 119.2kgs
15/03/14 118.6kgs

11.5hrs and 215kms on the bike must have helped this week. I did have some bad eating in there too

I have been a bit slack with the updates.

Currently still sitting on 118kgs after doing an avg of 220kms a week for the past 6 weeks.

Time to look at my diet a bit more I think.

[Nobody]

Currently still sitting on 118kgs after doing an avg of 220kms a week for the past 6 weeks.

Time to look at my diet a bit more I think.

Yeah, I've also found exercise not to be effective for losing weight over the long term. Eventually my appetite catches up. However changing my diet has lost me 15Kg (82 down to 67, BMI 27.4 to 22.5) since Sept last year and I could probably lose more if I wanted to get more focused with it.

[anttismo]

I had my 1st weekly weigh in, down 4 kg. But this is not real. I was on several weeks of holiday/eating binge and was way over inflated before I started. Typically 98~100 kg, but I was 106 a week ago, today 102, which is perhaps a more realisitc represeantation of my current weight (i.e still 2 - 4 kg up due to holiday/eating binge). But it is just the start, so expect a long, cold winter of discipine
1 May - 106 kg
8 May - 102 kg

[casual_cyclist]

fatty friday weigh in:

28/03/2014: 95 kg
04/04/2014: 94 kg
11/04/2014: 92 kg
18/04/2014: 93 kg
25/04/2014: 91.5 kg
02/05/2014: 92 kg
09/05/2014: 93 kg

I feel like I'm heading in the wrong direction.

[Mugglechops]

Currently still sitting on 118kgs after doing an avg of 220kms a week for the past 6 weeks.

Time to look at my diet a bit more I think.

Yeah, I've also found exercise not to be effective for losing weight over the long term. Eventually my appetite catches up. However changing my diet has lost me 15Kg (82 down to 67, BMI 27.4 to 22.5) since Sept last year and I could probably lose more if I wanted to get more focused with it.

I need to get strict with my eating too.

[Aussiebullet]

Well I actually hit my goal race weight of 65kg only just a day before I raced my first A race of the year
The Cootamundra Haycarters Delta Agribusiness Handicap run on Saturday 10th May, it must have all been worth it because
I actually WON! the race in a bunch sprint ahead of 255 entries Good to see all that weight loss didn't hurt my sprinting too much.
Not sure how long I will stay at this weight though it's a lot of work and I love food too much, proly hang around the 65-68kg till the end of the year and see if I can snag a ballot entry into the Tour of Bright as I doubt I'll ever be this light again so last chance to race it and have a red hot crack at the sprinters Jersey and GC.