Blood Pressure Increasing??
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Blood Pressure Increasing??
Postby Don1970 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:13 pm
Now, usually my blood pressure eases back a little once I start riding - I am on a low dose blood pressure medication but the pressure still reduces somewhat whilst in riding mode. This year however, my blood pressure seems to be increasing slightly the fitter I get - whats the go there?
I generally eat well, am a healthy weight for my height, however I do have some high blood pressure in the genes. Will be going to the GP shortly for the bi annual check up and skin sizzling, so will get an answer there - just interested if anyone else has had this happen?
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Postby casual_cyclist » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:21 pm
Not to me. Mine went down. Are you drinking enough water?Don1970 wrote:just interested if anyone else has had this happen?
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Postby Don1970 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:33 pm
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Postby Crawf » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:31 pm
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Postby Venus62 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:11 pm
Dehydration usually causes BP to drop, not increase.casual_cyclist wrote:Not to me. Mine went down. Are you drinking enough water?Don1970 wrote:just interested if anyone else has had this happen?
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Postby Don1970 » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:29 pm
Very little take away food (once every couple of weeks), plenty of veges, salad sandwich for lunch, some fruit, yoghurt, rolled oats for breakfast. Not big on chocolate etc - only sometimes and limited amounts.Crawf wrote:Define exactly 'I generally eat well'...
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Postby casual_cyclist » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:43 pm
Oh! I thought it increased BP.Venus62 wrote:Dehydration usually causes BP to drop, not increase.casual_cyclist wrote:Not to me. Mine went down. Are you drinking enough water?Don1970 wrote:just interested if anyone else has had this happen?
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Postby matagi » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:46 pm
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Postby Don1970 » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:21 pm
I measure and record it first thing in the morning and before I go to bed - for about 3-4weeks before I need to go to the GP to get a new script. This was his suggestion as he said one or two readings when I visit the clinic is not a great indicator.matagi wrote:When exactly are you measuring your blood pressure? Blood pressure usually rises during exercise as a normal physiological response but drops back after exercise.
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Postby Dr_Mutley » Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:58 pm
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Postby blokeinamoke » Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:40 pm
2. What anti-hypertensive are you on?
3. How are you measuring your BP? (manually or with a machine)
Trying to determine what the issue is, is it that your BP is increasing even though you are getting fitter? or that its not? The hydration part is fine, dehydration will cause a lower BP and higher HR.
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Postby Don1970 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:07 pm
BP is increasing even though I'm getting fitter - not a lot, but the last couple of years it usually drops.blokeinamoke wrote:1.increase in BP whilst exercising is a good thing, it will co-incide with your HR to effectively provide o2 to your muscles.
2. What anti-hypertensive are you on?
3. How are you measuring your BP? (manually or with a machine)
Trying to determine what the issue is, is it that your BP is increasing even though you are getting fitter? or that its not? The hydration part is fine, dehydration will cause a lower BP and higher HR.
I measure it with a machine (Omron)
I'm on Perindopril Arginine 5mg - so I think its fairly low dose.
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Postby blokeinamoke » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:05 pm
5mg is a usual starting dose (4mg is tbh) usually only like that for a month or so... perhaps ask the doc to re-assess and uptitrate the dose?
If youre not getting headaches or distress from it then play it cool dude....
(p.s. im a nurse... just so you dont think im spewing this stuff from my ass... )
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Postby Don1970 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:46 pm
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Postby BoardRider » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:28 am
Eventually I was taken off them using the same strategy of monitoring my Blood pressure ,losing weight even though I was fit.
I hope it works out may take some time.
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Postby Don1970 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:42 pm
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Postby Dr_Mutley » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:23 am
The starting dose is 2.5mg depending on which brand of perindopril u use... Max is 10mg.., so your on a mid range dose... With room to move to 10 if needed...blokeinamoke wrote:The increase can be from any number of things, muscle mass can sometimes hinder and give a false reading, the truly biggest one is that its a machine taking the BP rather than a manual cuff + Stethoscope.
5mg is a usual starting dose (4mg is tbh) usually only like that for a month or so... perhaps ask the doc to re-assess and uptitrate the dose?
If youre not getting headaches or distress from it then play it cool dude....
(p.s. im a nurse... just so you dont think im spewing this stuff from my ass... )
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Postby blokeinamoke » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:07 pm
Thanks for the clear up Doc, never seen a 2.5mg start doseDr_Mutley wrote:The starting dose is 2.5mg depending on which brand of perindopril u use... Max is 10mg.., so your on a mid range dose... With room to move to 10 if needed...blokeinamoke wrote:The increase can be from any number of things, muscle mass can sometimes hinder and give a false reading, the truly biggest one is that its a machine taking the BP rather than a manual cuff + Stethoscope.
5mg is a usual starting dose (4mg is tbh) usually only like that for a month or so... perhaps ask the doc to re-assess and uptitrate the dose?
If youre not getting headaches or distress from it then play it cool dude....
(p.s. im a nurse... just so you dont think im spewing this stuff from my ass... )
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Postby Dr_Mutley » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:38 pm
It's pretty common in GP land especially in patients new to antihypertensives... In very conservative docs u might see 2 or 2.5mg tabs being broken in half!blokeinamoke wrote:Thanks for the clear up Doc, never seen a 2.5mg start doseDr_Mutley wrote:The starting dose is 2.5mg depending on which brand of perindopril u use... Max is 10mg.., so your on a mid range dose... With room to move to 10 if needed...blokeinamoke wrote:The increase can be from any number of things, muscle mass can sometimes hinder and give a false reading, the truly biggest one is that its a machine taking the BP rather than a manual cuff + Stethoscope.
5mg is a usual starting dose (4mg is tbh) usually only like that for a month or so... perhaps ask the doc to re-assess and uptitrate the dose?
If youre not getting headaches or distress from it then play it cool dude....
(p.s. im a nurse... just so you dont think im spewing this stuff from my ass... )
Here's all the available strength as per the pbs...
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Postby Don1970 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:44 am
Reason for asking, went to pick script up from chemist and they said do you mind if its in a box instead of a bottle. I said no, but when I got home it was the erbumine 4mg not arginine 5mg. Will be ringing the gp also just to check.
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Postby matagi » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:29 am
Change of perindopril (Coversyl) salt from erbumine to arginine
Published in NPS RADAR
Date published: 01 August 2006 About this date
The PBAC has approved the change of perindopril salt from erbumine to arginine. The decision was based on bioequivalence of the two formulations of the angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitor. The new salt has improved stability in high humidity but there is no change to the effectiveness of the medicine.
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The new product has retained its brand name — Coversyl — which may add to the potential for confusion by medicine users not expecting the appearance of the medicine to change.
The table shows the therapeutically equivalent doses of perindopril. Note there is no increase in dose in moving, for example, from perindopril erbumine 2 mg to perindopril arginine 2.5 mg.
Perindopril arginine (new) Perindopril erbumine (replaced)
2.5 mg (white, round) = 2.0 mg (white, round)
5.0 mg (light green, rod-shaped) = 4.0 mg (white, rod-shaped)
10.0 mg (dark green, round) = 8.0 mg (dark green, round)
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Postby blokeinamoke » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:49 pm
Just had a wonderful skim through my MIMs though
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Postby Stefan_A » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:30 pm
1. maybe the fitter you get, the harder you are pushing yourself. ergo, doing more damage to your tissue or elevating your HR higher for longer. this could be raising your BP in addition to your resting HR. are you taking on more challenging routes (hills), attaining faster average speeds, doing higher volumes?Don1970 wrote:Now, usually my blood pressure eases back a little once I start riding - I am on a low dose blood pressure medication but the pressure still reduces somewhat whilst in riding mode. This year however, my blood pressure seems to be increasing slightly the fitter I get - whats the go there?
John
2. it's wiser to look at BP in conjunction with other health factors - cholesterol, insulin, thyroid, social and work related stress....and especially quality and quantity of sleep. many cyclists cut into sleep to up the k's.
3. when you say your BP is elevated this year, what are we talking ?
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