Fractured Ribs
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Parker » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:24 am
I've been through emergency more times than I'd like to count, I'm happy with what I've been told, I'll ultimately listen to my body and seek further medical assistance if I think it's needed, I will probably go to my doctor tomorrow and let him know what I've been up too
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby CKinnard » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:25 am
+1trailgumby wrote:I'm not a fan of ER doctors for some things. They stuffed the relocation of my dislocated shoulder, and knocked loose some of the cartilage (location of damage could only have occurred on re-insertion) and told me to not move for two weeks and then go see a physio. I ended up with frozen shoulder and needed surgical intervention. I should have seen the physio immediately.
I saw a top upper limb surgeon recently for an elbow fracture post fall. asked him specific questions my physio suggested I raise regarding a major tendon (common extensor) and the state of a ligament critical to joint stability (annular). The surgeon basically dismissed each complaint as inconsequential as there was no sign of compromised function involving either. When I went back to the physio he put the mri up, then proceeded to do orthopedic tests where he induced a clunk of the radius accompanied by pain down my forearm. Other muscle tests he did revealed a surprising amount of pain and weakness. This he said was a sign the annular ligament was gone, as indicated by the mri which he pointed out to me; and the jt would remain unstable though could be helped somewhat by building muscle strength. Although back on the bike, at this point I cannot get out of the saddle due to pain and joint instability at the elbow. The surgeon said i was right to go back to cycling and I should just focus on getting full extension back. To be honest, the surgeon hardly handled my arm when assessing.
It seems you can never take any one person's opinion, and are best getting a few!
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby chucknitro » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:19 am
Do not strap them. Use painkillers for 2 weeks (whatever it takes, see your doctor if you need more). Was pain free after 5/6 weeks.
Massage etc works well once the pain has settled.
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Parker » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:53 pm
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Re: Fractured Ribs
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby sogood » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:57 pm
Well, maybe you don't have fractures! Yet again, the X-ray diagnosis isn't that important as it's the symptom that matters. A badly bruised muscle with ligamental/fascial damage can certainly give you the same clinical picture. As you already know, it's all conservative non-surgical management with rib fractures. Pain killer, pain killer, distraction to forget the pain, distraction to forget the pain, deep breathing, deep breathing... Good luck!Parker wrote:X-rays have problems showing the fractures, but the ER doctor promised me they were fractured
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Parker » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:47 pm
Yep, they said they'd call me if anyone saw more, so maybe I'll get luckysogood wrote:Well, maybe you don't have fractures! Yet again, the X-ray diagnosis isn't that important as it's the symptom that matters. A badly bruised muscle with ligamental/fascial damage can certainly give you the same clinical picture. As you already know, it's all conservative non-surgical management with rib fractures. Pain killer, pain killer, distraction to forget the pain, distraction to forget the pain, deep breathing, deep breathing... Good luck!Parker wrote:X-rays have problems showing the fractures, but the ER doctor promised me they were fractured
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Re: Fractured Ribs
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Parker » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:25 pm
Lots of strong, it'll come back, we've figured out som exercises I can do as well and like the doctor said, I can put the bike on the trainer and I can walk.
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Parker » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:31 am
I don't have to sleep sitting up anymore, we'll see, I said I'd give myself 5 days of rest before I started doing some exercise again and by some exercise I mean walking, trainer, going to try squats and bicep curls, I don't want to loose ALL the weight work I've been doing recently.
And as always, if it hurts, ill stop!
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby sogood » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:32 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby wombatK » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:48 pm
Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us -Jerry Garcia
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Parker » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:55 pm
Which bike? Glad you fellas asked, got a 2015 Specialized Ruby w Ultegra, it doesn't look as bad as the picture does, in the store in looks more like a Matt black, in the picture is very grey. Anyway, I havent tested it, but I've ridden enough bikes to know what I want so I'm not concerned.
For a while I've been wanting a bike that's more relaxed and absorbs the vibration better, I've had my eye on a trek do and for a while, but saw this in the shop yesterday and bought it in 3 minutes... It'll be nice to move away from a pure race geometry for a while and enjoy this new bike even more.
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:26 pm
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby trailgumby » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:06 pm
+1. Good stuff!Mulger bill wrote:Great news Row!
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby chriscole » Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:20 pm
1. We don't have "ER"s in Australia. We usually have more than one room to work in. You'll usually find it's an ED or DEM.trailgumby wrote:Sorry to hear about the ribs. I haven't broken any, but landing on the end of my mountain bike handlebars with my ribs and the related cartilage damage was bloddy painful and took months to recover from. In some ways, bone fractures you recover from faster. So I appreciate your pain.
I'm not a fan of ER doctors for some things. They stuffed the relocation of my dislocated shoulder, and knocked loose some of the cartilage (location of damage could only have occurred on re-insertion) and told me to not move for two weeks and then go see a physio. I ended up with frozen shoulder and needed surgical intervention. I should have seen the physio immediately.
If you can afford it, I would encourage you strongly to go see a specialist, quickly.
On the other hand, ER registrars are quite good for things like wound infections because they get lots of experience dealing with that in hospitals.
2. Emergency Physicians are specialists.
3. Orthopaedic trauma, including joint dislocations, constitute as much of our practice as things like wound infections. If you have, for example, a dislocated shoulder, you've got about a >90% chance that it'll be an emergency physician reducing it for you, not an orthopod.
Just sayin'...
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby moosterbounce » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:08 pm
I dunno...it's got pink on it. I keep telling her that red is cooler...but I suppose I'll ride with her anyway...if she can keep up!!trailgumby wrote:+1. Good stuff!Mulger bill wrote:Great news Row!
(Says me who hasn't ridden properly in 2 weeks because I ran 200m and it flared up my "knee surgery spot" and made it all sore and swollen!!)
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Parker » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:09 pm
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:11 pm
I so wanna be watching the next time you two get out togethermoosterbounce wrote:...but I suppose I'll ride with her anyway...if she can keep up!!
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Re: Fractured Ribs
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby moosterbounce » Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:26 am
We make a good pair actually - my top half is fine and her bottom half is fineMulger bill wrote:I so wanna be watching the next time you two get out togethermoosterbounce wrote:...but I suppose I'll ride with her anyway...if she can keep up!!
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby silentC » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:48 am
So what's with the fat bits on the forks on those Specialized bikes? Is it a shock absorber? I rode a Roubaix once and noticed them but the guy who owned it couldn't tell me if there was something in there, or if it was just a design feature.got a 2015 Specialized Ruby w Ultegra
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby Parker » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:55 am
My felt is nice and I love it, it's speedy and responds well but aero frames aren't forgiving and when you're talking about 6 hour training rides and the like I wanted to be comfortable. I'd also ridden the Trek Domane a few years ago and loved the comfort of it, this is the equivalent of the Trek Domane, I just happened to decide on this one at the time.
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Re: Fractured Ribs
Postby find_bruce » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:04 pm
My dearly departed Dad was a butcher who told me the reason a mate's ribs hurt after Dad reduced his dislocated shoulder was that was where he put his foot to apply traction. Took me years to realise he was pulling my legtrailgumby wrote:Sorry to hear about the ribs. I haven't broken any, but landing on the end of my mountain bike handlebars with my ribs and the related cartilage damage was bloddy painful and took months to recover from. In some ways, bone fractures you recover from faster. So I appreciate your pain.
I'm not a fan of ER doctors for some things. They stuffed the relocation of my dislocated shoulder, and knocked loose some of the cartilage (location of damage could only have occurred on re-insertion) and told me to not move for two weeks and then go see a physio. I ended up with frozen shoulder and needed surgical intervention. I should have seen the physio immediately.
If you can afford it, I would encourage you strongly to go see a specialist, quickly.
On the other hand, ER registrars are quite good for things like wound infections because they get lots of experience dealing with that in hospitals.
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Re: Fractured Ribs
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