Healthiest bars?

[matagi]

I give up.

I don't know why you bothered in the first place.

Looking back at his other threads, this guy is either trolling or is that other word that rhymes with his name.

By posting comments like this, I feel you people are trolling with me. I am genuine here. There must be a reason why I seem to want to eat desserts so much. By having many bars for breakfast only, my desire to binge in desserts has decreased substantially. It's obviously the sugar that I need. Better getting sugar from a healthy bar than a caramel slice for example.

Check out the ABC Catalyst episode "Gut Reaction" - perhaps your craving for sweet things is due to an imbalance in your gut microbiota, and you should look at adjusting your diet to restore the balance?

You may be genuine, but you seem singularly disinterested in any of the sensible advice offered thus far so it is hardly surprising people are becoming impatient with your questions.

[zill]

In contrast I love this thread.

Now you can all get a feel for how a health professional feels when we give advice and a patient says - I'm going to do a nutrition course instead.

If only everyone posts here are health pros.

I have never seen a nutritional specialist but will do so soon.

[zill]

You may be genuine, but you seem singularly disinterested in any of the sensible advice offered thus far so it is hardly surprising people are becoming impatient with your questions.

I will seek professional advice soon so advice heeded.

Right now, I'm thinking of cutting the bars and instead add the same amount of sugar in say 4 bars into my oates or wheetbix to see if that stops my dessert cravings as well.

[Mulger bill]

Zill, no.

I have no training but I do have practical experience as an ex addict and diabetics carer. Sugar is addictive junk. Eat some, want more.
Look at reducing intake as a way of controlling cravings, sounds like crap but it's worked for me.
No more that two flat tsp of RAW on your Weetbix for a week then slowly reduce it. Find something low GI to help ease blood sugar spikes.

[ValleyForge]

I worried that this thread would run out of steam, but no, it keeps getting better!

[Bluejay87]

Lol Zill has to trolling. Wants a healthy alternative to desserts and muesli bars and his solution is to eat sugar!?!

[matagi]

Lol Zill has to trolling. Wants a healthy alternative to desserts and muesli bars and his solution is to eat sugar!?!

It's somewhat intriguing that Zill's solutions seem to be getting more extreme with each iteration.

[zill]

Zill, no.

I have no training but I do have practical experience as an ex addict and diabetics carer. Sugar is addictive junk. Eat some, want more.
Look at reducing intake as a way of controlling cravings, sounds like crap but it's worked for me.
No more that two flat tsp of RAW on your Weetbix for a week then slowly reduce it. Find something low GI to help ease blood sugar spikes.

The logic behind my strategy is that when I binge on desserts, I stop after a certain point, where I get sick of eating more sugar. And that is usually the amount of sweet stuff I eat for that day.

So I figure that if I eat lots of sugar at home than I won't desire sweet stuff from shops as much. At least at home, I'm just eating lots of sugar but not the other bad stuff that comes with proper desserts like fat. So overall, eat less kilojules but still get my sweet fulfillment.

[toolonglegs]

Sugar is addictive Zill... pretty simple, go totally cold turkey on added sugar, read labels or just eat / start with things in their natural state.
Takes a few days or more but if you can stick with it you can get past the cravings.
Just do it

[zill]

Just for you people to know my background a bit more, I weighed 105kg July of last year. This was due to eating lost of savory junk and a little sweet junk and with no intensive exercise. Today after a race, I weighed 67.6kg my lowest weight since when I was 13 or 14 (I'm currently a fully grown adult by the way). I would like to thank CKinnard (who I believe is a health professional) for his sound advice that he gave me on this forum. I only need to lose between 3 to 5 kg to be at a very good racing weight.

I don't eat savory junk anymore but am really addicted to sweet junk for some reason. I really hope that I will get over this sweet junk just like how I have gotten over the savory junk. Hopefully, after eating so many desserts over the last few months, I will get bored of them and stop desiring them. Come to think of it, I already don't desire cookies much anymore. However, cakes are still there.

[g-boaf]

I still love to eat small cakes and especially chocolate muffins - also love chinotto as well, and that's loaded with sugar. Trick is just to work enough to burn that stuff away.

[zill]

I still love to eat small cakes and especially chocolate muffins - also love chinotto as well, and that's loaded with sugar. Trick is just to work enough to burn that stuff away.

True but it's not good to binge eat cakes than ride intensely for 5 hours eating minimal food and than come home with a small dinner. This is what I have done lately which isn't healthy even though my weight is coming down slowly.

[g-boaf]

I still love to eat small cakes and especially chocolate muffins - also love chinotto as well, and that's loaded with sugar. Trick is just to work enough to burn that stuff away.

True but it's not good to binge eat cakes than ride intensely for 5 hours eating minimal food and than come home with a small dinner. This is what I have done lately which isn't healthy even though my weight is coming down slowly.

Agreed.

[zill]

So theory is simple but very hard to correct this temptation / behavior.

[small dog]

I still love to eat small cakes and especially chocolate muffins - also love chinotto as well, and that's loaded with sugar. Trick is just to work enough to burn that stuff away.

That's right. There's no such thing as healthy or unhealthy food, there is only too much. There are quite a few anecdotal reports of people losing weight and improving their biomarkers of health on "junk food" diets.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/0 ... professor/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/bus ... u/4339395/
http://www.diet-blog.com/09/30_day_pizza_diet.php

The only health problem with so called junk food is that it is calorie dense and not very filling. For athletic purposes it's actually a useful property. Glucose is used by the body in the same way, either it comes from fruit or cake.

[zill]

I still love to eat small cakes and especially chocolate muffins - also love chinotto as well, and that's loaded with sugar. Trick is just to work enough to burn that stuff away.

That's right. There's no such thing as healthy or unhealthy food, there is only too much. There are quite a few anecdotal reports of people losing weight and improving their biomarkers of health on "junk food" diets.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/0 ... professor/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/bus ... u/4339395/
http://www.diet-blog.com/09/30_day_pizza_diet.php

The only health problem with so called junk food is that it is calorie dense and not very filling. For athletic purposes it's actually a useful property. Glucose is used by the body in the same way, either it comes from fruit or cake.

That's very interesting. The problem with me is when I eat junk, I tend to go overboard. I'll try out this sugary oat meal a bit longer and report back if I still have the need to binge.