Group ride before a blood test???
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Group ride before a blood test???
Postby Kral86 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:26 pm
I have to fast after midnight.
So will it be fine to go on a group ride with just water and nothing else??
I ususally go with a group speed of 28-30KM/h and ride about 65-75KM
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Re: Group ride before a blood test???
Postby macca33 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:05 am
Other than that, it won't harm you.
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Group ride before a blood test???
Postby RonK » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:53 am
I do that every ride.Kral86 wrote:I wanna go on my Saturday group ride but have need to do a blood test in the morning before the place closes.
I have to fast after midnight.
So will it be fine to go on a group ride with just water and nothing else?
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Re: Group ride before a blood test???
Postby Tim » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:35 am
I have no idea if this is the case but fasting followed by intense exercise might effect glucose, LDL/HDL, triglyceride and other test result readings.
No doubt someone will confirm or deny this.
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Re: Group ride before a blood test???
Postby dalai47 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:49 am
+1RonK wrote:I do that every ride.Kral86 wrote:I wanna go on my Saturday group ride but have need to do a blood test in the morning before the place closes.
I have to fast after midnight.
So will it be fine to go on a group ride with just water and nothing else?
I've done many hard pre dawn 2 hour training rides with water only returning for breakfast afterwards. You should be fine...
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Re: Group ride before a blood test???
Postby Kral86 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:16 pm
The reason for the blood test was I would get cramps in the quads and in the hands on some group/organised charity rides and long hill climbs
I use:
Creatine pre-workout formula 30mins before riding
BCAA insta-workout formula in one bidon
Endura hydration formula in another bidon
So I try to keep hydrated all the time.
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Re: Group ride before a blood test???
Postby ValleyForge » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:22 pm
A Vit D assay might be worthwhile, and a magnesium if its not on the ELFTs that are ordered. From memory, exercise will push your neutrophil count (part of your white cell count) up slightly, and your triglyceride up too. CK maybe too if its hot and you really bash it.
Or just take Vit D and Ca/Mg tabs. Solves most cramps.
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Re: Group ride before a blood test???
Postby Aussiebullet » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:46 am
Kral86 wrote:I opted to not ride this morning...
The reason for the blood test was I would get cramps in the quads and in the hands on some group/organised charity rides and long hill climbs
I use:
Creatine pre-workout formula 30mins before riding
BCAA insta-workout formula in one bidon
Endura hydration formula in another bidon
So I try to keep hydrated all the time.
Do you use all theses supplements before every ride?
Reason I ask is creatine is not recommended for endurance sports like cycling, it is usually detromental to endurance peformance, one of the main issues it causes is excessive water retention in muscle cells causing.... you guessed it cramping.
Please DO NOT confuse water retention with hydration, they are NOT the same.
Even using creatine on non cycling days like before weight training can still affect endurance peformance if using regularly or in large doses.
With that said I occasionly use small amounts of creatine when doing large blocks of anaerobic or sprint training on the bike to help recharge creatine stores as this allows more work to be done at the very top end of ones anaerobic/alactic abilities,
but I'd cease using it days before endurance rides and weeks before any races that are longer than ~2 minutes.
BTW I hope you get your cramping sorted.
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Re: Group ride before a blood test???
Postby g-boaf » Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:36 am
Is your group ride of 65-75km covering 1500m or 2000m elevation? The reason I ask is that it seems odd that you need all of that stuff for 65-75km at 28-30km/h.Kral86 wrote:I opted to not ride this morning...
The reason for the blood test was I would get cramps in the quads and in the hands on some group/organised charity rides and long hill climbs
I use:
Creatine pre-workout formula 30mins before riding
BCAA insta-workout formula in one bidon
Endura hydration formula in another bidon
So I try to keep hydrated all the time.
You should just get by with a bottle with some Endura in it and another one with water, or a half/half mixture in both, maybe take a CLIF bar or something else nice like that. Hydration is pretty easy, just drink enough water.
Even if I do a faster ride of 130km+ at 32avg speed (1000+m elevation) I get by with just about 2 litres of water mixed in with some endura and eating some food at around the 60 or 100km mark.
Recommend staying away from Creatine and BCAA stuff. Cramps in quads and hands, that's odd. Maybe check the bike fit and otherwise, warm up properly. If you've done all of that, then it's probably just conditioning. You can take magnesium tablets to help with cramps, but eventually you'll get beyond that.
What sort of rides do you normally do in a week, and what do you do to help recovery after the rides (eg stretching)?
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