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More at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ssues.htmlVegetarians drink and smoke less and exercise more than their meat-eating cousins... but they're not as happy and are more likely to feel depressed and anxious
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:30 pm
More at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ssues.htmlVegetarians drink and smoke less and exercise more than their meat-eating cousins... but they're not as happy and are more likely to feel depressed and anxious
Postby CXCommuter » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:44 pm
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:06 pm
ie Being a vegetarian does not necessarily result in the observed adverse effects. Dr Lang is suggesting that they may be headed that way regardless. ie a correlation between the two rather than a cause-and-effect.'If you think of people that are committed to being a vegetarian it's a fairly significant commitment and it picks up people at the fringe of the obsessive-compulsive spectrum.'
Postby Mulger bill » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:26 pm
Commonly held misconception, often IMO perpetuated by the lunatic fringe of the herbivorous humans.CXCommuter wrote:Sorry- whole article lost me when it said people who eat meat are carnivorous
Postby Kangzosa » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:30 am
Postby Eleri » Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:53 pm
Postby petie » Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:11 pm
Meat only eater...Kangzosa wrote:Definition of a carnivore: Meat eater
Postby CXCommuter » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:36 pm
Thank you- Very few humans are carnivores- Eskimos??petie wrote:Meat only eater...Kangzosa wrote:Definition of a carnivore: Meat eater
Omnivore: meat and plant eater
Postby Mulger bill » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:48 pm
Spot on, just finished a lovely omnivorous roast chook and vegies dinnerpetie wrote:Meat only eater...Kangzosa wrote:Definition of a carnivore: Meat eater
Omnivore: meat and plant eater
Postby march83 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:15 pm
this sums up literally every headline report on a scientific study since the dawn of time.ColinOldnCranky wrote: a correlation between the two rather than a cause-and-effect.
Postby Nobody » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:38 pm
Well of course. They haven't made up their mind yet. They'll probably become happier when they "go the whole hog" (just a figure of speech ) and become a whole-food vegan.Australian Associated Press wrote:Australian vegetarians might be healthier than meat-eaters but they are unhappier and more prone to mental health disorders, new research suggests.
Maybe only as a joke, which is what the article is suggesting I believe.Mulger bill wrote:Commonly held misconception, often IMO perpetuated by the lunatic fringe of the herbivorous humans.
Seems a bit slow around here lately. Maybe not enough traffic to keep DR interested. He last visited over a month ago.Mulger bill wrote:I didn't see any links between x many bananas a day and shameless self promotion...
Postby death valley 69 » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:19 pm
Postby CKinnard » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:47 pm
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:24 pm
You are obviously barking mad and so it follows that you cannot see thatEleri wrote:You could recast those results to say "people who have a mental health problem are more likely to become vegetarians than those who don't have a mental health problem" - based on the data given.
But then, I'm a vegetarian, don't smoke, barely drink alcohol and am quite fit. Hadn't noticed a mental health problem in myself but that's a sample size of one.
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:40 pm
I think he may have a case of the runs and cannot get away from the throne in order to plug his laptop in.Nobody wrote:Seems a bit slow around here lately. Maybe not enough traffic to keep DR interested. He last visited over a month ago.Mulger bill wrote:I didn't see any links between x many bananas a day and shameless self promotion...
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Postby Mulger bill » Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:40 pm
ColinOldnCranky wrote:I think he may have a case of the runs and cannot get away from the throne in order to plug his laptop in.Nobody wrote:Seems a bit slow around here lately. Maybe not enough traffic to keep DR interested. He last visited over a month ago.Mulger bill wrote:I didn't see any links between x many bananas a day and shameless self promotion...
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Postby Kangzosa » Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:05 am
Nopetie wrote:Meat only eater...Kangzosa wrote:Definition of a carnivore: Meat eater
Omnivore: meat and plant eater
Postby CXCommuter » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:23 am
WARNING WARNINGKangzosa wrote:Nopetie wrote:Meat only eater...Kangzosa wrote:Definition of a carnivore: Meat eater
Omnivore: meat and plant eater
A carnivore is not by definition a meat only eater.. Where are you getting your definitions? do you seriously believe that most carnivores, wolves cats etc never chew a bit of grass or even eat some undigested plant foods in the animals they kill? think about it
A carnivore is simply an animal that derives the majority of it's caloric and nutrient requirements from meat.
Postby silentC » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:33 am
A carnivore is an organism which derives it's nutrients mainly or exclusively from animal tissue. There are degrees of this, and in one sense a human could be called a carnivore, but they are more properly an omnivore because we derive much of our nutritional intake from other things. Eating meat exclusively will not give you everything you need in your diet and will probably make you sick eventually. There are also characteristics of the digestive system and other physical and behavioural features which define an animal as a carnivore, aside from it's actual diet.Where are you getting your definitions? do you seriously believe that most carnivores, wolves cats etc never chew a bit of grass or even eat some undigested plant foods in the animals they kill? think about it
Postby kb » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:57 am
Postby silentC » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:03 am
Postby CXCommuter » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:38 am
Bold- also applies to vegetarian species- ie cattle (ruminants) and DR's favourite the Ape.silentC wrote:A carnivore is an organism which derives it's nutrients mainly or exclusively from animal tissue. There are degrees of this, and in one sense a human could be called a carnivore, but they are more properly an omnivore because we derive much of our nutritional intake from other things. Eating meat exclusively will not give you everything you need in your diet and will probably make you sick eventually. There are also characteristics of the digestive system and other physical and behavioural features which define an animal as a carnivore, aside from it's actual diet.Where are you getting your definitions? do you seriously believe that most carnivores, wolves cats etc never chew a bit of grass or even eat some undigested plant foods in the animals they kill? think about it
On the other hand, some animals are exclusively (obligate) carnivores, meaning that they obtain everything they need from eating meat. The fact that some of them may incidentally consume vegetable matter does not make them omnivores. For example a cat might eat grass, but it lacks the digestive ability to do anything with it, and in many cases it will induce vomiting. A cat that has eaten something that has made it feel unwell, will eat grass deliberately in order to help throw it up. It gets no nutritional benefit from the grass.
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:27 am
Postby march83 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:32 am
Postby silentC » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:33 am
Which means if you're a vegetarian cyclist, you are the weirdest of the weirdvegetarians are the cyclists of the food world
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