BNA losers club - 2015

[Nobody]

Expecting a plateau or loss next month.

63.4 this morning, so down 1.2 so far. Probably happy with that weight, but haven't got enough experience yet at keeping it steady. I'm also trying some things, so expecting some more fluctuations between 61 and 65 before the end of the year.

[toolonglegs]

01/01 101 kgs
20/01 102.5 kgs
07/02 102.5 kgs
23/02 102.5 kgs
28/03 102.5 kgs
04/05 99.9 kgs
11/05 101.5 kgs
26/06 100.4 kgs
28/07 103.1 kgs

A month of very little riding, long days and constant restaurants ...

[casual_cyclist]

A month of very little riding, long days and constant restaurants ...

Sounds like my month except replace restaurants with processed food. I'm scared to look

[kb]

Very slow here. 3kg for the whole year. 2 kg more since Sunday but I don't think gastro counts...

[Nobody]

62.7 this morning, so down 1.9 for the month. No extra exercise this month. Back under 21 for BMI with a 0.425 WHtR.
More info in the Diet Thread.

[fishwop]

Age 60, 187cm

Short Term Goal 120kg
Longer Term BMI < 25

Sep '14 145.0 (highest ever)
1/1/15 136.0
1/2/15 134.5
1/3/15 130.2
1/4/15 127.4
1/5/15 125.2
1/6/15 122.4
1/7/15 123.6
1/8/15 122.0

Started doing weight and cardio in early December, doing this 4-5 days a week also dusted off the bike and doing 100km a week. It should really be more.

The blip in June was my son being born (at my age!), living on take-away for a week and a half at the Private Hospital and curtailment of most exercise for most of that month.

[barefoot]

Last year, I dropped from 86kg to 74kg from about July to November.
MFP logging food, keeping fairly strictly to a 7000kJ diet (+ extra for rides, based on power meter numbers).

Coming off the losing stage, I had a bit of trouble adjusting to a maintenance diet. Going from "I do not eat these substances" to "I need to / am allowed to eat a small amount of these substances but not too much" was not easy... especially combined with a return to full-time study after 18-ish years in the workforce. Everything is different. Eating different (don't have a desk to keep lunch in the drawer of any more!), exercising different (on a 6:10 train on days I used to do a 6am bunch ride).

After a small initial bounce, I've done... okay... at stabilising. Hovering around 75kg, breaking through 76kg briefly a few times but drifting back down again. Currently mid-high 75.x's most days.

Thinking I'd like to drop a few more kg this spring. Turning 40 this year, I was lighter than I've been any time since my mid teens. But I'm quite liking this new smaller version of me, and I wonder what it would be like to be even smaller. Although, the motivation to go back to religious food logging is not easy to find... and I'm not sure I really want to go through another whole wardrobe change (having gone from size 36+ to size 32 pants so far... I realise now that 32 is not always easy to find, 30 is rare and smaller than that must be in the kids section).

Keep fighting the good fight all you club members. Being a healthier weight is all good.

tim

[singlespeedscott]

43 year old male. 178cm tall

31/12/14 - 79kg

01/02/15 - 78kg

05/03/15 - 76.8kg

30/03/15 - 76.6kg

03/05/15 - 75.2kg;

04/06/15 - 76.5kg

03/07/15 - 76.4kg.

11/07/15 - 75.7kg

06/08/15 76.8kg - have been a bit slack on the calorie intact of late. Way to much chocolate and not enough km's [emoji53]

[g-boaf]

Expecting a plateau or loss next month.

63.4 this morning, so down 1.2 so far. Probably happy with that weight, but haven't got enough experience yet at keeping it steady. I'm also trying some things, so expecting some more fluctuations between 61 and 65 before the end of the year.

Pretty light there. Keeping it there depends on how much you can ride a bike (or how much you are allowed to ride) and eating the same things.

I can ride pretty much when I feel like it, then I eat pretty much same thing all the time. So my weight stays about the same.

My 5min power is at 5.65w/kg now, 10min is 5.43w/kg, 20min is still 4.75w/kg, 60min is 4.57w/kg (might change if I do a test). I'm about as light as I'll get, so I'm now just trying to get more power. Getting there slowly, bit by bit. My power over shorter times is pretty average though, just don't do that well.

It's good to see everyone here working hard to get their targets!

[Aussiebullet]

Last year, I dropped from 86kg to 74kg from about July to November.
MFP logging food, keeping fairly strictly to a 7000kJ diet (+ extra for rides, based on power meter numbers).

Wow nice job, specially the will power to stick to 7000kj for so long, obviously adding calories for riding but still not an easy task, hell I eat 20,000kj+ most days at 68kg but then again I never sit still and my job is labour intensive,
you mind telling us how tall you are?

[barefoot]

Last year, I dropped from 86kg to 74kg from about July to November.
MFP logging food, keeping fairly strictly to a 7000kJ diet (+ extra for rides, based on power meter numbers).

Wow nice job, specially the will power to stick to 7000kj for so long, obviously adding calories for riding but still not an easy task, hell I eat 20,000kj+ most days at 68kg but then again I never sit still and my job is labour intensive,
you mind telling us how tall you are?

Cheers. You must work insanely hard to burn 20k kJ per day. As I understand, the average equilibrium level is somewhere around 9000kJ.

I'm 178cm, 40 yo.

Sticking to 7000kJ nett was easier than expected, partly because it's an absolute that can't really be stretched and games without noticing, and partly because of the ability to eat back exercise. Once I understood what a 7k day diet looked and felt like (and especially once I noticed what foods didn't provide pleasure enough to justify the energy content)... a bike commute (ie almost every day) allowed about 1k kJ extra. An early morning fast or hilly hour on the road bike is almost an extra meal (which is quite a bit, since I only eat 2 meals a day). If I don't ride, I don't get the extra food (or beer), which isn't too hard to accept.

The main thing is, though, that most of a normal person's daily energy use is just from being alive, so you can't afford to consistently eat much more than that and plan to exercise the excess off.

[Aussiebullet]

[Cheers. You must work insanely hard to burn 20k kJ per day. As I understand, the average equilibrium level is somewhere around 9000kJ.

I'm 178cm, 40 yo.....

Ah we're about the same age, your a little taller proly better looking too I'm only 172cm tall or at least I used to be when I was ~21ish havn't needed to measure myself since.
I do have to work hard but have done so since I was a boy always been a trady/labourer.
My job right now 6am start has me moving anywhere from 10 tonne to 15 tonne p'day everyday 40+hrs p/wk manually as a storeman/order selecter for one of the big supermarket chains at a minimum I'd be burning 250 kcal/hr (1050kj) up to 400 kcal/hr (6000+kj or higher) if I lay my ears back and have a crack early in the day and cruise after lunch till 2:30pm,
then head out around ~4pm for an SST/L4 session for 90+min that also nets 5000+kj
(think what someone like Wiggins or Spartakus with a ~420w threshhold would need to consume burning (6300kj p/hr (AT) ~ 25% efficiency rate )
then take the dog for a 20 - 40 min brisk walk before dinner and you can see energy needs are up there; edit: insanely high for a competitive hack on a bike.... it's the main reason A high carb diet works so well for me and people like Durian Rider or though I don't subscribe to all of his theorys Lol.

I can see 7000kj worth of wholesome food would work for some but when I'm active my appetite is ferocious CARB the FORK up everyday or die in the ass and get ill, thats just how it is, think what would happen to a TDF rider burning 20'000kj just for one 4 - 6hr mountain stage if they skipped meals, and that's not even counting BMR, media media commitments and other daily activities etc.

A hilly ~6hr ride for me is well over 15'000kj + BMR and other daily activities so your last paragragh does not ring true for me but I'm proly an outlier.
Enjoy a beer when you feel you've earn't it bro it will keep you sane, life is FAR too short to stress about minor things, stressing about such trivial things is likely more detrimental to health then the 1 or 2 standard drinks a couple times every month or so, just don't make it a nightly thing, i;m enjoying a nice glass of white right now before dinner.
Keep at it and remember one thing for the future " You didn't slow down cause you got old.... You got old cause you slowed down and gave up.

All the best
Brian.

[skull]

Late August weigh in. Started to sort myself out again

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      Jan    Feb    Mar    Apr    May    Aug
2015  105.7  102.9  99.6   99.1   100.3  99.5

[singlespeedscott]

[quote="singlespeedscott"]43 year old male. 178cm tall

31/12/14 - 79kg

01/02/15 - 78kg

05/03/15 - 76.8kg

30/03/15 - 76.6kg

03/05/15 - 75.2kg;

04/06/15 - 76.5kg

03/07/15 - 76.4kg.

11/07/15 - 75.7kg

06/08/15 - 76.8kg

13/08/15 - 76kg - a descent week riding wise and eating wise.

[simlin]

Last year, I dropped from 86kg to 74kg from about July to November.
MFP logging food, keeping fairly strictly to a 7000kJ diet (+ extra for rides, based on power meter numbers).

Coming off the losing stage, I had a bit of trouble adjusting to a maintenance diet. Going from "I do not eat these substances" to "I need to / am allowed to eat a small amount of these substances but not too much" was not easy... especially combined with a return to full-time study after 18-ish years in the workforce. Everything is different. Eating different (don't have a desk to keep lunch in the drawer of any more!), exercising different (on a 6:10 train on days I used to do a 6am bunch ride).

After a small initial bounce, I've done... okay... at stabilising. Hovering around 75kg, breaking through 76kg briefly a few times but drifting back down again. Currently mid-high 75.x's most days.

Thinking I'd like to drop a few more kg this spring. Turning 40 this year, I was lighter than I've been any time since my mid teens. But I'm quite liking this new smaller version of me, and I wonder what it would be like to be even smaller. Although, the motivation to go back to religious food logging is not easy to find... and I'm not sure I really want to go through another whole wardrobe change (having gone from size 36+ to size 32 pants so far... I realise now that 32 is not always easy to find, 30 is rare and smaller than that must be in the kids section).

Keep fighting the good fight all you club members. Being a healthier weight is all good.

tim

Nice, it's been about 4 months since I got my act together...did about 7000kJ per day for the firs 12 weeks...didn't eat back any cycling kJ and lost a steady 1.5kg per week from 130kg down to 110kg. Started eating back about half the cycling kJs since to make it more sustainable (I do wonder how accurate the kJ burn on Strava is, not having a power meter or HR monitor...at least it looks a little more scientific then say the calories estimated by some Gym machines or online estimators). Now at 106kg and aiming for 94kg (as some sort of goal...it would be normal weight BMI). When I get to 100kg I will probably eat enough kJ to maintain my goal weight, which means I should slowly drop the last 6kg.

As a bonus I can now easily spin up my home climb when at the start of the year it was a grind...first ride up it after dropping 20kg was a huge PR.

[singlespeedscott]

43 year old male. 178cm tall

31/12/14 - 79kg

01/02/15 - 78kg

05/03/15 - 76.8kg

30/03/15 - 76.6kg

03/05/15 - 75.2kg;

04/06/15 - 76.5kg

03/07/15 - 76.4kg.

11/07/15 - 75.7kg

06/08/15 - 76.8kg

13/08/15 - 76kg

21/08/15 - 75.7kg - heading down again. Let's see how we go next week as I'm on holidays for a week.

[TheWall]

June 14 116.8kg...

2015:
5/1 104kg

5/2 99.7kg

2/3 98.9kg

17/4 96.6kg...

Just passed the 20kg mark

In the middle of a month where i have committed to four 100+klm rides. Should go to bed. It is an early start tomorrow.

26/5 95.8kg. Upped the cycling but weight loss slowing but fitness and ability to handle bigger kms is getting better. Cracked the 160klm at Noosa last week

Great work to all on track. Winter is leaving us so the weight should be harder to put on and easier to take off.

Downs and Ups for me since the last post on 27/5....

Two serious manflu's and one food heavy holiday (massive servings) led me to have my 1st falter...managed to crack the 100kg mark in mid July. Felt very yucky indeed.

Back on the bike and being more watchful on the intake sees me back down to 96.2kg. Not sure I want to drop below 95kg as puts me into the 'faster' category on Strava ha ha.

Matt

[skull]

new month, not change

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2015  105.7  102.9  99.6   99.1   100.3  100.6  99.5   100.2

[TonyMax]

Keep hanging in there skull, I've been too embarrassed to go anywhere near the scales, I'll weigh in again 1/10...

[singlespeedscott]

43 year old male. 178cm tall

31/12/14 - 79kg

01/02/15 - 78kg

05/03/15 - 76.8kg

30/03/15 - 76.6kg

03/05/15 - 75.2kg;

04/06/15 - 76.5kg

03/07/15 - 76.4kg.

11/07/15 - 75.7kg

06/08/15 - 76.8kg

05/09/15 - 76.2kg

[singlespeedscott]

43 year old male. 178cm tall

31/12/14 - 79kg

01/02/15 - 78kg

05/03/15 - 76.8kg

30/03/15 - 76.6kg

03/05/15 - 75.2kg;

04/06/15 - 76.5kg

03/07/15 - 76.4kg.

11/07/15 - 75.7kg

06/08/15 - 76.8kg

05/09/15 - 76.2kg

14/09/15 - 75.2kg - weighed myself after a ride this morning. The ride is one I haven't done for a while and it went terribly. It's a 1100m of climbing over 65km. Because I felt terrible I thought maybe it was my weight. Apparently that wasn't it.

[skull]

new month, not change

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      Jan    Feb    Mar    Apr    May    Jun    Aug    Sep
2015  105.7  102.9  99.6   99.1   100.3  100.6  99.5   100.2

So I have started doing daily weigh ins and using an app to track my progress. It is even more depressing. I have actually been watching my diet and getting the exercise up and regular.

So from the start of Sep it has been

• 100.2
• 100.7
• 100.2
• 100
• 100.9
• 99.8
• 101
• 101
• 99.7
• 101.5
• 102.2
• 101.3

[matagi]

Skull, I do the same thing and I've noticed some pretty extreme fluctuations from day to day which are entirely to do with fluid retention.

I was stalled at 70-71kg for couple of months, then changed my diet to exclude almost all refined carbohydrates (rice, pasta, bread, etc) and have now dropped below 70. So maybe you need to look at the composition of your diet and tweak it a bit.

[Nobody]

...then changed my diet to exclude almost all refined carbohydrates (rice, pasta, bread, etc) and have now dropped below 70. So maybe you need to look at the composition of your diet and tweak it a bit.

Agree, but for Skull's benefit, I want to clarify a bit. I've already addressed carbs as the villains here. A correction for that post should be that brown rice is lower in carlorie density than wholemeal pasta, just like white rice is lower than normal pasta. I've done an approximate calorie density chart as a guide here.

You, Skull and I are examples of people who can't out ride our diet as eventually our appetites catches up. For us, addressing average calorie density and macro-nutrient ratio are the key. But since Skull has been around long enough to have seen all this before, I'd guess the biggest inhibitor to change is his love of his current diet.

Back on topic. I weighed myself at work after breakfast yesterday. After taking off the weight of breakfast should make me 63.6 or BMI 21.3. Should have a more accurate weight tomorrow morning after night shift.

[singlespeedscott]

Nobody, do you eat on night shift?