Male reproductive health and cycling
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Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby Calvin27 » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:34 pm
I'll try not to rant but pretty much I've been asked (nagged) to quit soft drink, alcohol, caffeine and worst up cycling. Reasoning is everything causes birth defects and I am a absolute selfish dude if I don't do as she says. As much as I want to field questions about how much do I want to hang myself, or whether I should run or hide, I'll try to be productive and put her behavior to maternal hormones linked to her recent pregnant friend. This whole thing is just insanity and we had a !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! fight about it tonight again. The problem is all of the content refers to 'what to do if you're having problems' (i.e. couples that have been trying for a while). Thing is we haven't even started. Add to this I am no cycling hot shot. Most weeks I struggle to hit 100km per week and even then it's a paltry pace.
So questions to my fellow cyclists:
- How can I convince her cycling is going to give my kid autism (she really said that!)?
- Can anyone link me some reputable sources to defend my case?
Thanks for your help in advance guys. I'm really pissed off and even offered to have my tadpoles tested along with blood and whatever else but it's all to not avail.
Any other tips are also welcome. I know you guys are a smart bunch seeing most of you are always finding devious ways to hide that new $4k bike!
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby tcdev » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:13 am
In all seriousness, I continued with all of the above and have two healthy kids, 3yrs and 5mths. The 1st took around 3-4 months to conceive, the 2nd (whilst I was cycling) only 2 months. So you could argue cycling increases your chances!
Of course the link between autism and cycling is utterly ludicrous and even borders on offensive. A quick Google presents no such study, and plenty of evidence refuting any link to infertility while you're at it.
I would agree with her to try for X months, and then if that's not successful, then you'll cut out the problematic 'substance abuse' (at least within her sight) and if it must be, cycling.
I have my fingers crossed for you, this situation can be brutal for husbands. I have a few horror stories from friends...
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby A_P » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:41 am
If it were me, i would be doing the best i could to produce the best swimmers that you can
However, i cant see how cycling for what is in your case a realitively small amount of time could be of detriment.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby Calvin27 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:59 am
Lol!A_P wrote: Jens has 6 kids !
I've tried reasoning and it's all been futile. Not sure what I'm going to do. I was actually ok with the food stuff (will help me shed some kgs and climb bigger hills lol) but off riding is pretty serious. At least with the food I can sneak it, but how the hell am I supposed to sneak a ride out? This is just ridiculous. I came into cycling because of injury in other sports and now I have to choose again?
Arghhh! This is so frustrating! Should I buy a recumbent?
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby A_P » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:14 am
Briefs /tight jeans are probably more likely to influence infertility than sitting on a bike seat
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby toolonglegs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:37 am
before it's too late ...
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby CXCommuter » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:01 am
My thoughts too- Maybe ask whether the kids will be immunised?toolonglegs wrote:Is this serious? ... if so
before it's too late ...
I agree with the food and alcohol, that is good, but cycling may improve DNA through you being fitter. There is no link between cycling and sperm quality that I am aware of- there is some evidence of nerve damage to erectile tissue (wasn't there a pro last year who went priapic?) which is not related to sperm quality.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby yugyug » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:30 am
But I suspect her argument is based on something else. Does she dislike cycling because of the time or money you spend on it? Some other reason?
Given her other demands, are there are other issues at play? If there is a power imbalance in your relationship it would be good to get that sorted out before kids arrive.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby Calvin27 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:14 am
No kidding. It comes from her skjanky friends who were on the pill for about 8 years straight and then had some difficulties.kb wrote:Where on earth did she get the idea from? I don't think you can really argue against it if you don't the source, and possibly not even if you do, as it's fairly irrational.
Woke up and still pissed off, I'm going to craft up some ultimatums I think otherwise seriously going to bail.NeillS wrote:It's got nothing to do with health. She's testing the waters to see if she can control you fully before the kids come along. Bail now. She's not a keeper.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby rodneycc » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:01 am
As for autism, having a child with servere autism myself (conceived before I started riding), yeah that's a bit ridiculous. There is more chance having a child with autism through environmental issues such as using computers and mobile devices to be honest rather than the healthy sport of cycling where you are away from all that in the fresh air! There is no evidence of anything like that as nobody really knows what causes autism still.
Anyway your partner is just a little scared on the journey ahead and just venting I'd say so be more reassuring and just say - fine I will give up the other stuff but I love my cycling and I want to keep doing that...
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby rodneycc » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:12 am
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby Calvin27 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:30 am
Researching velomobiles -Seriously.rodneycc wrote:Oh and go and buy a selle smp problem solved...
It's not ridiculous it's just out right offensive, inconsiderate and stupid. I actually lost it so bad when she said that. It's this that makes me think twice. Imagine the sort of rubbish I'll have to deal with downthe line if this is only the start.rodneycc wrote: As for autism, having a child with servere autism myself (conceived before I started riding), yeah that's a bit ridiculous. There is more chance having a child with autism through environmental issues such as using computers and mobile devices to be honest rather than the healthy sport of cycling where you are away from all that in the fresh air! There is no evidence of anything like that as nobody really knows what causes autism still.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby lobstermash » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:50 am
I don't think it'd be harmful for her to see this thread, or any other material that might hint that her demands and comments are irrational, unkind and selfish.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby queequeg » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:32 am
I only started riding shortly after #1 was conceived. It didn't affect the ability to conceive #2, which came off the back of a 10 course dinner with matching wines for each course.
Your other half will know when the right time is to be trying "properly". The other 25 days of the month you are just wearing yourself out
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby gorilla monsoon » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:12 pm
But...... if I was in your position I'd take a deep breath and count to 10 then make an appointment for the two of you with your family physician to talk it all through and take it from there.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby Calvin27 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:10 pm
Hit. The. Mark.queequeg wrote:Tell her to put down all the stupid books with advice about conceiving kids. Switch off the internet and stop chatting in "I'm trying to get pregnant" discussion forums (ok, my wife did that...lol).
Yep. I did mention this, but to no effect. I will escalate to make it an ultimatum.gorilla monsoon wrote: if I was in your position I'd take a deep breath and count to 10 then make an appointment for the two of you with your family physician to talk it all through and take it from there.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby zill » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:43 pm
I don't meet many women but what percentage of the Australian female population does this group of females represent roughly?gorilla monsoon wrote:I was lucky and married a girl with absolutely no maternal instincts whatsoever. She doesn't even like holding babies.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby zill » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:48 pm
Calvin, I'm no expert at relationships but to me either she has a psychological problem (such as being over cautious/picky) or she sees something strange/unfavorable/weird in you or your side of the family and worried the baby might get passed these genes as well. So either way, not a good situation to be in. A solution might be to try to find another partner. But this is just a (intuitive) guess.Calvin27 wrote:Hit. The. Mark.queequeg wrote:Tell her to put down all the stupid books with advice about conceiving kids. Switch off the internet and stop chatting in "I'm trying to get pregnant" discussion forums (ok, my wife did that...lol).
Yep. I did mention this, but to no effect. I will escalate to make it an ultimatum.gorilla monsoon wrote: if I was in your position I'd take a deep breath and count to 10 then make an appointment for the two of you with your family physician to talk it all through and take it from there.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby eldavo » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:59 pm
PS: I was searching for the youtube thread to share this, to give you something more important to live for on your bucket list after "bad relationship learning experience" has been crossed off.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby moosterbounce » Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:11 pm
More than you can imagine. There is a real expectation that women will have kids. If you don't, then you are either ignored by those that do, or are labelled "weird" or in some cases "obviously gay".zill wrote:I don't meet many women but what percentage of the Australian female population does this group of females represent roughly?gorilla monsoon wrote:I was lucky and married a girl with absolutely no maternal instincts whatsoever. She doesn't even like holding babies.
Personally, I am one of 4 girls. Only one has kids.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby moosterbounce » Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:17 pm
Geez...and they say cyclists need licenses.
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Re: Male reproductive health and cycling
Postby gorilla monsoon » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:12 pm
I was going to say "probably not a very big percentage" but I think Moo might have a better idea of the numbers than I do (me not being a girl and all). Forty-odd years ago, when Mrs Monsoon and I hooked-up (and she wasn't Mrs Monsoon) societal expectations for women to reproduce were probably higher. I can tell you we went through a lot of discussions about it with other people over the years.zill wrote:I don't meet many women but what percentage of the Australian female population does this group of females represent roughly?gorilla monsoon wrote:I was lucky and married a girl with absolutely no maternal instincts whatsoever. She doesn't even like holding babies.
One work colleague in good old Wagga Wagga even spoke strongly - angrily strongly - about how we had no right to marry if we didn't want to have kids. Not sure what argument he'd put up these days with soldiers from the Rainbow Army.
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