Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

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Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:24 pm

Anybody have experienced this before?

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby Kalgrm » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:40 pm

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:55 pm

what are you trying to say?

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby Kalgrm » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:57 pm

I'm saying that I love reading the threads you start, Zill. They are always entertaining and sometimes controversial, so as a moderator, I need to keep my energy up with a full box of popcorn.

We're off to a slow start on this one though ... :(

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:13 pm

I'm always serious though and with this thread even more so because I could have it (Chronic exertional compartment syndrome) as explained by a medical professional! No other diagnosis possibilities seem relevant at this stage.

I didn't want to relate it to myself too early because I'm not sure I have it but from readings on the internet, it sounds pretty relevant to my case.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby matagi » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:18 pm

Pathophysiology unclear, may require surgery to fix.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby ft_critical » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:22 pm

zill wrote: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome.

Anybody have experienced this before?
No. But, it gives me an idea for an iPhone app.

You input the number of words you want into the app and it spits out random words with 'syndrome' as the last word.

Cool huh?

Surfs up, hangover, not fit on the bunch ride - straight on to the app for an implausibly complex malady.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:36 pm

ft_critical wrote:
Surfs up, hangover, not fit on the bunch ride - straight on to the app for an implausibly complex malady.


What happens if you ride at below ftp for 20min in a velodrome but experience pain in your calf (without puffing much since you are under ftp) and this has been going on for 4 months during which you have received regular muscular therapy?

Have done an ultra sound scan and they couldn't see anything wrong with it. Would an MRI scan show more detail?

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby ft_critical » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:38 pm

ft_critical wrote:
zill wrote: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome.

Anybody have experienced this before?
No. But, it gives me an idea for an iPhone app.

You input the number of words you want into the app and it spits out random words with 'syndrome' as the last word.

Cool huh?

Surfs up, hangover, not fit on the bunch ride - straight on to the app for an implausibly complex malady.
Darn it already exists; works quite well, albeit without the word 'syndrome' which could be a future enhancement:
Ancient Itch
Burning Foot
Canine Sweats
Crop Sweats
Ghost Croup
Great Delerium Lip
Gripping Itch
Grotto Womb
Mountain Scalp
Soul Bile

http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate. ... me=disease

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby Kalgrm » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:41 pm

zill wrote:No other diagnosis possibilities seem relevant at this stage.

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I'm not sure I have it but from readings on the internet, it sounds pretty relevant to my case.
I'll see if I can nip this thread in the bud before it drifts too far then.

Go and see a medical professional and get a proper diagnosis.

Enough said? Anything else added to this thread will just be more "readings from the internet", won't it?

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby Kalgrm » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:44 pm

PS - good work ft_critical! :) I think I have had Ghost Gripping Itch Syndrome before.

At least, that's what the internet said it was ...

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby ft_critical » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:44 pm

zill wrote:
ft_critical wrote:
Surfs up, hangover, not fit on the bunch ride - straight on to the app for an implausibly complex malady.


What happens if you ride at below ftp for 20min in a velodrome but experience pain in your calf (without puffing much since you are under ftp) and this has been going on for 4 months during which you have received regular muscular therapy?
Sounds like it might be Grotto Womb?

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:53 pm

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:57 pm

Why is this thread unwelcomed?

This thread is about

"I'm not a doctor but…
Cycling injury, recovery and health issues." which is what is advertised.

People should be able to write whatever they want that is relevant.

As to getting a proper diagnosis, I will but maybe I'm waiting to meet the doctor soon. Just want to get some information prior to meeting the doctor.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby Kalgrm » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:20 pm

zill wrote:Just want to get some information prior to meeting the doctor.
Fair enough Zill. If you trust a bunch of saddle jockeys more than the medical pages you've already found, be my guest.

I'll just go and pop some more corn for everyone now ...

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:24 pm

Kalgrm wrote:
zill wrote:Just want to get some information prior to meeting the doctor.
Fair enough Zill. If you trust a bunch of saddle jockeys more than the medical pages you've already found, be my guest.

I'll just go and pop some more corn for everyone now ...

Cheers,
Graeme
What I really would like is for some people who have had this syndrome from excessive cycling to share their thoughts on it.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby trailgumby » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:33 pm

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Get professional medical advice.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby matagi » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:40 pm

Why do you think you have chronic exertional compartment syndrome?

What other investigations have you had?

It is a diagnosis of exclusion (usually) after ruling out potentially more serious conditions including but not limited to things like - deep vein thrombosis, myopathy, some form of nerve entrapment, tumour.

First thing to rule out as a cause for your symptoms is some sort of musculoskeletal imbalance - so I would be looking at bike fit. A lot of aches and pains can be due to stresses and strains on the body because the position on the bike is not optimal and it can be quite subtle. So, let me repeat, first thing to do is look at bike fit and by extension, your position on the bike. If that doesn't help the problem, then the next step is to consider is the pain due to local factors ie. a problem in the calf or is it referred pain ie. due to a problem in your spine. They require different investigations to diagnose/rule out and if your problem is due to your back, then it will be made worse by less than optimal bike fit.

As I said earlier, the pathophysiology of chronic exertional compartment syndrome is unclear, and may require surgery to treat.

Oh yeah, and it's not exactly common, so trying to find someone on the forums who has had it may be an exercise in futility.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:22 am

matagi wrote:Why do you think you have chronic exertional compartment syndrome?

What other investigations have you had?

It is a diagnosis of exclusion (usually) after ruling out potentially more serious conditions including but not limited to things like - deep vein thrombosis, myopathy, some form of nerve entrapment, tumour.

First thing to rule out as a cause for your symptoms is some sort of musculoskeletal imbalance - so I would be looking at bike fit. A lot of aches and pains can be due to stresses and strains on the body because the position on the bike is not optimal and it can be quite subtle. So, let me repeat, first thing to do is look at bike fit and by extension, your position on the bike. If that doesn't help the problem, then the next step is to consider is the pain due to local factors ie. a problem in the calf or is it referred pain ie. due to a problem in your spine. They require different investigations to diagnose/rule out and if your problem is due to your back, then it will be made worse by less than optimal bike fit.

As I said earlier, the pathophysiology of chronic exertional compartment syndrome is unclear, and may require surgery to treat.

Oh yeah, and it's not exactly common, so trying to find someone on the forums who has had it may be an exercise in futility.

Have had an ultra sound scan. No problems found with the scan but obviously I'm not feeling 100% so something is wrong. Chronic exertional compartment syndrome was suggested as a possibility to what I have. Had a look on the internet and it seemed to match my condition well so I'm worried now.

Will get a bike fit soon. The bikes in the past didn't cause me problems however. Would an MRI scan be more conclusive as to what is really happening?
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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:22 am

trailgumby wrote:
Get professional medical advice.
Tell me something I don't know.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby find_bruce » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:36 am

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby matagi » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:38 am

zill wrote: Would an MRI scan be more conclusive as to what is really happening?
Short answer - no. It might show something but equally it might not.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby matagi » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:42 am

zill wrote: Will get a bike fit soon. The bikes in the past didn't cause me problems however.
That doesn't exclude the possibility there is a problem now. It could be something as simple as the height of the seat post has slipped slightly, or the position of your foot may not be quite right. It may be quite a subtle change that makes a difference, but seriously, I would start with bike fit and have your bike position/riding style professionally assessed.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:01 am

matagi wrote:
zill wrote: Will get a bike fit soon. The bikes in the past didn't cause me problems however.
That doesn't exclude the possibility there is a problem now. It could be something as simple as the height of the seat post has slipped slightly, or the position of your foot may not be quite right. It may be quite a subtle change that makes a difference, but seriously, I would start with bike fit and have your bike position/riding style professionally assessed.
Sounds good and fingers crossed it will go over after the bike fit.

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Re: Chronic exertional compartment syndrome

Postby zill » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:34 am

matagi wrote:
zill wrote: Would an MRI scan be more conclusive as to what is really happening?
Short answer - no. It might show something but equally it might not.

matagi, you seem to know your stuff. Are you a health professional? If so which type?

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