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Blood pressure
Postby warthog1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:47 pm
Mine recently hit 135/100 (whilst standing) on 2/10/18
The Systolic has never been a problem but the diastolic (bottom figure) has been creeping up to just below 90 whilst seated for some time.
Too high for my liking.
I am 50 and have been off the bike a bit.
Back on the bike but more importantly diet. Whilst not being a junk food head, I have been too much of a carnivore.
Gone vego for a start and I'll move from there.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby find_bruce » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:08 pm
Recently did a test that required no caffeine for 24 hours - result 125/80 - it seems I need to stop having a strong espresso before I see the Dr. At least I am hoping she doesn't say give up coffee altogether.
Sadly it seems there may be other issues going on so I am off for a stress test next week. It seems they have no bike so I am going to have to run on a treadmill
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby JPB » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:10 pm
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby cyclotaur » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:42 pm
I had some 'other issues' around 50yo and went for a stress test. In fact stress/anxiety was my issue, and it was giving me palpitations and slightly raised BP, as it turned out.find_bruce wrote:Like you Warthog I am 50...…<snip>...Sadly it seems there may be other issues going on so I am off for a stress test next week. It seems they have no bike so I am going to have to run on a treadmill
I couldn't run due to a knee injury, but walked the treadmill into the ground for 15 mins and they said "nothing wrong with you cardio-vascular wise" - in fact they were pleased to have someone who could throw up a decent result rather than the elderly and frail patients they usually tested. This was well before I began regular riding as well. Hopefully you'll have a good result on the test.
Pay some attention to diet/exercise and try to factor OUT stress causes, and life is much better.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby MichaelB » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:03 pm
Donate plasma fairly regularly, and last appt, BP was 120/72 and HR of 52. Been pretty consistent in that range for a while.
That reminds me, due for another 90 min rest at the local Red Cross centre !!
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby warthog1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:07 pm
I like my coffee too.find_bruce wrote:Like you Warthog I am 50. Dr thought I had a problem with high blood pressure - 146/86. 24 hour monitor was 124/78 & Dr thought it was just white coat hypertension.
Recently did a test that required no caffeine for 24 hours - result 125/80 - it seems I need to stop having a strong espresso before I see the Dr. At least I am hoping she doesn't say give up coffee altogether.
Sadly it seems there may be other issues going on so I am off for a stress test next week. It seems they have no bike so I am going to have to run on a treadmill
Already dropped it back to 2 cups a day max from 4 or 5
Withdrawal headaches for sure if I go cold turkey.
Like you I don't run.
That is madness
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby Nobody » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:16 pm
We all need to standardise how we measure BP. Otherwise we can't really compare.warthog1 wrote:Post yours
Mine recently hit 135/100 (whilst standing) on 2/10/18
Here is the AHA guide to measuring. For a start, it says one should be sitting with the back supported.
Being a medical professional I'm surprised to hear you reporting readings lying down, or standing.
Anyway, as you know, mine is about 110/70 every time I get it professionally measured. Which is about every 6 months. I'm 50 yo too. More than 5 years ago I used to be about 122/81. Diet change has dropped mine. I used to think it would go up as I age, as western diet eaters generally do. But with Africans that eat mainly plant based, their BP does down slightly as they age. As you're figuring out, it's more about diet than exercise over the long term. Although I don't want to downplay the importance of exercise.
Anyway, hopefully you'll get it sorted. Mine took about 4 years to bottom out after the diet change. So it can take a while.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby MichaelB » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:21 pm
Cool, I'm in the Green rangeNobody wrote: ..Here is the AHA guide ....
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby Nobody » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:22 pm
I saw some studies on nutritionfacts.org which showed that if you paper filter coffee, rather than french press (metal filter) you can drop a compound in it (by 90% IIRC) which causes cholesterol to rise. Just another way coffee could be contributing.warthog1 wrote:I like my coffee too.
Already dropped it back to 2 cups a day max from 4 or 5
Withdrawal headaches for sure if I go cold turkey.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby Nobody » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:27 pm
Nice to know and good for you. But are you going to post the numbers?MichaelB wrote:Cool, I'm in the Green rangeNobody wrote: ..Here is the AHA guide ....
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby warthog1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:29 pm
Yeah that's why I reported it as standing.Nobody wrote:We all need to standardise how we measure BP. Otherwise we can't really compare.warthog1 wrote:Post yours
Mine recently hit 135/100 (whilst standing) on 2/10/18
Here is the AHA guide to measuring. For a start, it says one should be sitting with the back supported.
Being a medical professional I'm surprised to hear you reporting readings lying down, or standing.
Anyway, as you know, mine is about 110/70 every time I get it professionally measured. Which is about every 6 months. I'm 50 yo too. More than 5 years ago I used to be about 122/81. Diet change has dropped mine. I used to think it would go up as I age, as western diet eaters generally do. But with Africans that eat mainly plant based, their BP does down slightly as they age. As you're figuring out, it's more about diet than exercise over the long term. Although I don't want to downplay the importance of exercise.
Anyway, hopefully you'll get it sorted. Mine took about 4 years to bottom out after the diet change. So it can take a while.
It is a modifying factor and means it will be higher.
Diastolic whilst seated is just south of 90 usually which is still too high.
Stage 1 hypertension according to your link.
Bugger, I can't just be a sloth and eat/drink whatever I want
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby warthog1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:33 pm
120/72 he posted earlier.Nobody wrote: But are you going to post the numbers?
I'd be happy with that
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby warthog1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:36 pm
My cholesterol was pretty good despite the shlt I've been eating.Nobody wrote:I saw some studies on nutritionfacts.org which showed that if you paper filter coffee, rather than french press (metal filter) you can drop a compound in it (by 90% IIRC) which causes cholesterol to rise. Just another way coffee could be contributing.warthog1 wrote:I like my coffee too.
Already dropped it back to 2 cups a day max from 4 or 5
Withdrawal headaches for sure if I go cold turkey.
I'm going to struggle to let coffee go
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby Nobody » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:47 pm
Um, yeah. Some of us just don't have that genetic gift.warthog1 wrote:Bugger, I can't just be a sloth and eat/drink whatever I want
However, even the ones that do have the gift often eventually get bitten my something else health related eventually. Which in part is perpetuated by all the sloth and gluttony (for want of better words) they got away with previously.
Thanks.warthog1 wrote:120/72 he posted earlier.Nobody wrote: But are you going to post the numbers?
I'd be happy with that
Sorry MB.
But what's "pretty good"? Remember any numbers? Some people have wildly differing ideals on what "pretty good" or "good" is. A guy at work has a TC of 5.5 and thinks that is good enough not to do anything about it. Mine is 3.4, but I still want to get it lower.warthog1 wrote:My cholesterol was pretty good despite the shlt I've been eating.
There should be various substitution options available. Teas are better for you and still have caffeine, if caffeine is the problem. Watering it down some more? If the wife doesn't drink it (highly unlikely) then removing it from your environment could be effective.warthog1 wrote:I'm going to struggle to let coffee go
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby warthog1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:00 pm
No definitely not.Nobody wrote: Um, yeah. Some of us just don't have that genetic gift.
However, even the ones that do have the gift often eventually get bitten my something else health related eventually. Which in part is perpetuated by all the sloth and gluttony (for want of better words) they got away with previously.
A bit of a stress head too so might need to manage that better also
.Nobody wrote:But what's "pretty good"? Remember any numbers? Some people have wildly differing ideals on what "pretty good" or "good" is. A guy at work has a TC of 5.5 and thinks that is good enough not to do anything about it
Canna remember sorry, but well within the GP's acceptable range.
I'll get some bloods done in another 6 months.
I am substituting some of the other cups for ginger tea and green tea now.Nobody wrote:There should be various substitution options available. Teas are better for you and still have caffeine, if that is the problem. Watering it down some more? If the wife doesn't drink it (highly unlikely) then removing it from your environment could be effective.
Struggling to let go of coffee altogether. I reckon I'll keep the morning one if I can.
Anyway, I was hoping this thread wasn't about me too much, wondering how others are going and how they manage it.
I'll pester you in the diet thread Nobody, you are definitely all over diet for health.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby Nobody » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:09 pm
Sorry. Shutting up (for a while).warthog1 wrote:Anyway, I was hoping this thread wasn't about me too much...
I'll leave this here for quick reference.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby cyclotaur » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:19 pm
Three readings just taken by my daughter (student nurse) watching PAKvsAUS cricket just now - first reading just as S Marsh did his best to chop a wide ball onto his stumps and go out for a duck.
For interest, my TC has been 4.4-4.7 for the last 30 years.
*SMarsh just snicks one to first slip - OUT for 3. His only scoring shot was the chop past his stumps.
BP may be up a little now !!
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby MichaelB » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:41 am
Thanks.warthog1 wrote:120/72 he posted earlier.Nobody wrote: But are you going to post the numbers?
I'd be happy with that
Sorry MB.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby Calvin27 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:07 am
Basically family history. I went real clean for about 2 years - not coffee, alcohol (ok I might have maybe 10 drinks in the entire 2 years), reduced sugar massively and animal fats. Did absolutely nothing. Some people are just naturally high and I have a massive family history of this stuff.
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Re: Blood pressure
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby warthog1 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:21 am
Family Hx on my Mum's side too.Calvin27 wrote:130/85 and I'm only 32.
Basically family history. I went real clean for about 2 years - not coffee, alcohol (ok I might have maybe 10 drinks in the entire 2 years), reduced sugar massively and animal fats. Did absolutely nothing. Some people are just naturally high and I have a massive family history of this stuff.
My wife, on the other hand, is well overweight, doesn't exercise and has a BP of 120/60.
Member Nobody (terrible username for using as an example ) has had excellent results by going a plant-based diet.
I am leaning toward that but don't know if I can manage the abstinence it requires.
I'll probably have another half-hearted attempt
We will see.
Either way, hypertension can't be left unmanaged. There will be a heavy price to pay long-term.
I work with a bloke who has a porcine aortic valve and an aortic repair as a result.
It has had life-changing effect on him.
Anyway not trying to sound preachy but it a high bp is not benign if anyone wasn't already aware.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby RobertL » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:17 pm
Genetics must help, I can remember going for a check-up when I weighed 20kg more than I do now, and I had good BP, cholesterol etc. Basically, every health factor that could be reduced to a number was very good - except for my weight. Now that I am fitter and skinnier, all of those numbers have improved a bit more.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby Arbuckle23 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:27 pm
Creator !PA wrote:I don't suffer from stress, I'm a carrier.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby Calvin27 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:47 pm
Agree, but in my case, I rekon there is very little I can do. Despite my efforts the blood pressure remains high. My large sample size of cousins , aunts and uncles seem to have the same problem regardless of their lifestyle choices (5 of them are vegan).warthog1 wrote: Either way, hypertension can't be left unmanaged. There will be a heavy price to pay long-term.
The only other thing i haven't tried is to go full hermit - which I think would actually work in my case - we seem to be a stressful bunch haha.
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Re: Blood pressure
Postby warthog1 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:48 pm
That surprises me.Calvin27 wrote:Agree, but in my case, I rekon there is very little I can do. Despite my efforts the blood pressure remains high. My large sample size of cousins , aunts and uncles seem to have the same problem regardless of their lifestyle choices (5 of them are vegan).warthog1 wrote: Either way, hypertension can't be left unmanaged. There will be a heavy price to pay long-term.
The only other thing i haven't tried is to go full hermit - which I think would actually work in my case - we seem to be a stressful bunch haha.
I'll see how I'm going over time.
Good luck with it mate
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