sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
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sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby choobs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:42 am
are there any budget options to make the bike fit me better? I'm on a pension and I over-extended myself to buy the bike, now iv gone further to repair it - what do? should I sell/trade this bike and get something bigger or are there other options I can pursue.
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby eldavo » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:49 am
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby choobs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:01 am
I saved for some time to buy the bike, I felt I inspected it thoroughly (no corrosion, no bent spokes, teeth on cogs weren't sharpened, and it seemed like a genuinely well cared for bicycle) I did my research into the types of bikes for the style of riding I want to do (trail) aswel as the brands, frame sizes, average prices and other factors.eldavo wrote:Sell, recover your money, set your realistic budget and seek advice beforehand here. Thousands of opinions on tap ready to inundate you.
I didn't just point to a gumtree listing and say "that one" I looked around and bought was I felt was a quality bike in my price range; I could'v gone and gotten a ruler to check the frame size but I could'v done alot of things really...
PS: if you haven't ridden a bicycle in 15 years its not going to be immediately obvious that its too small, also Iv never ridden a "well prepped" bike in my life, just franken BMX's I built from bits of broken big-w bikes.
[edit]: apologies about that sounding rude, i'm sure you get a million ignorant posters here daily asking stupid questions but I didn't go in blind, I'v just had an unfortunate occurrence, I still appreciate your quick reply and suggestions
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Postby bychosis » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:27 am
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby Kalgrm » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:32 am
What sort of problems did the mechanic say you had? Could he have trying to make a sale to a newb who knew no better?
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby choobs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:41 am
quoted $70-$100 including parts and a service, I figured how can I sell/trade a broken bike & with a recipt for service it would be easier to sell; I think its clear i'm going to loose alot on this lmao.
if all the parts would swap straight over to a larger frame that's something I may struggle with but probably complete... but after getting another frame + this repair... time will tell.
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Postby Kalgrm » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:15 am
Cheers,
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Postby bychosis » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:24 am
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Postby choobs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:31 am
problem was I couldn't get the chain to go onto the largest cog on the front, I followed some youtube tutorials and it didn't work so I took it to the local bike shop,Kalgrm wrote:I can't imagine a scenario where the front dérailleur's action is influenced by the condition of the rear one. Get a second opinion on that.
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people pay money for broken bikes? if the quote of $70-$100 holds true I figured being a brand name bike I might atleast make some of my money back :\bychosis wrote:Depending on how cheap you bought the bike it probably isn't worth getting the service and then selling it.you won't get that money back.
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby bychosis » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:47 am
As Kalgrm wrote I can't imagine that the rear gears would affect the front to an extent that it would be unworkable. In fact, if the rear gears and chain are worn it is entirely possible that replacing the rear gears may lead to having to replace chain and front gears as well. I'd be asking the LBS to fix the front as well as possible and leave the rear for 'later' then sell the bike.
If you don't mind the asking how much was it and how old/what model? Might change my opinion of the value of the service.
Edit: Out of interest I bought a bike that was a bit small when I first started MTB riding, I should have got the next size up, which may have been a tad large. Wasn't ideal but it worked until I upgraded.
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby Kalgrm » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:49 am
Yep, I understand that much. Why would the rear dérailleur prevent the front dérailleur working? The two act independently.choobs wrote:problem was I couldn't get the chain to go onto the largest cog on the front ...
Perhaps someone from here who lives in Brissy (who doesn't expect to make a sale) could have a look at it for you?
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Postby Kalgrm » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:56 am
This is a good point too. If you don't feel particularly constricted, ride the bike for a while and have fun.bychosis wrote:Out of interest I bought a bike that was a bit small when I first started MTB riding, I should have got the next size up, which may have been a tad large. Wasn't ideal but it worked until I upgraded.
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby choobs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:01 am
The bike is a Gary Fisher - Paragon, 1998 I believe (black frame, yellow text) I figured it may be collectable someday (saw some one US ebay expensive) so I asked the bike shop guy to keep any parts he replaces, I figured it was worth servicing even
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Postby choobs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:35 pm
the $70 - $100 quote has been raised to "around $110" I'm really trying to be positive and hope its on the up&up, he did mention all my old parts would be included though.
so.... any price I can sell it at for more than "around $110" will be gain on my loss.
life goes on.
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby choobs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:16 pm
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby silentbutdeadly » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:46 pm
It's worthy of a better driveline and shifters than what it is likely to have now. Great bike to learn on and with. And at this point I'm not convinced I'd trust the giggling idiot's assessment of its size either.
Ride it yourself - if you are comfortable then it fits.
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Postby Kalgrm » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:58 pm
That bike shop is not the one you are looking for.choobs wrote:... the giggling smirk ...
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Postby choobs » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:05 pm
I figured it as a good bike in (what I thought was) my size, I was even prepared to get it serviced and running efficiently, if I can deal with the size then GREAT, if not... I know i'l probably take a big loss but someone else will get a freshly serviced bike and that makes me feel a bit better.silentbutdeadly wrote:The GF Paragon is quite a way away from an average bike back in its day http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/Bike" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... el=Paragon even at that age
It's worthy of a better driveline and shifters than what it is likely to have now. Great bike to learn on and with. And at this point I'm not convinced I'd trust the giggling idiot's assessment of its size either.
Ride it yourself - if you are comfortable then it fits.
yeah... I can see that now, I went in for a bicycle tube for my mums bike (bought her a bike, it had a flat tyre, I needed a new tube) the guy at the bike shop offered to change the tube on the spot for me and was very friendly, they'r local and I like to support local business.Kalgrm wrote:That bike shop is not the one you are looking for.choobs wrote:... the giggling smirk ...
i'd have loved to buy a bike from his shop instead of bringing in a repair, but it is what it is, I did feel pretty embarrassed; glad I turned up 5 mins before opening time.
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby toolonglegs » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:02 am
I was 85 kgs back in 1998-2000 and I snapped 3 of these in very quick succession ... The final frame took 4 or 5 months to arrive from the US, by which time I had left the country. My mates sold it to another guy who very quickly drove it into the garage on his car roof
Don't clean it too much... cleaning those frames usually means finding a crack
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby choobs » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:34 am
you may be right, i'm closer to 6'0 but we typically wear some type of shoe while riding yeah hahah, I didn't mind the idea of something -slightly- smaller so as to move around a bit more (when trail riding I rarely sit) but the length of the frame is probably too short for my lankyness.Duck! wrote:At 6' 1" I'd suggest that even a 19" frame would quite likely be on the too small side for you... If the thing really is a 17" you'd be much better off cutting your losses & selling it in favour of a better-fitting bike.
I weigh... less than that (health). if the frame is indeed cracked I wouldn't/couldn't in good conscience sell it knowing it was cracked either... i'd hope the bike shop would find something like that during a service too.toolonglegs wrote:How much do you weigh?... if it is a Gary Fisher - Paragon 1998 ( or another other model ... same frame different paint job ) and you are resonably big guy then flick it off asap... especially as it is too small.
I was 85 kgs back in 1998-2000 and I snapped 3 of these in very quick succession ... The final frame took 4 or 5 months to arrive from the US, by which time I had left the country. My mates sold it to another guy who very quickly drove it into the garage on his car roof
Don't clean it too much... cleaning those frames usually means finding a crack
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before I give up on this bike i'm going to try a bent seat post or something, wouldn't be the first time i'v ridden an unsuitable bike.
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby bychosis » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:04 am
Get it back, give it a try and if it is really too small pass it on.
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Re: sold a 17" frame as a 19" - how bad will this be?
Postby choobs » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:17 am
Appreciate the advice.bychosis wrote:I'm 181cm, close enough to 6' in the old coin. I can't remember what size my first proper bike was, I suspect it may have been a 19", but could have been 17". It was definitely smaller than the 21" MTBSO that came before it. I have shorter legs and longer torso so maybe that was why it fitted OK. Now I ride size M or L in MTB depending on the manufacturer. You may be able to get away with your smaller frame, if it feels OK. There is also the possibility that the LBS hasn't measured it and just thinks it is a 17" (although there might be a great big 17" sticker on it making no doubt).
Get it back, give it a try and if it is really too small pass it on.
Also big thanks to the forum for your friendly and informative advice, from the research at the end of this I should end up with a decent bike whatever happens so i'l just deal XD
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