Mandatory Helmet Laws & stuff (MHL discussion)

[il padrone]

I do believe all those holes must weaken the structure.

Nup. Not how bicycle protective helmets have ever been designed to work.

They are not designed to protect from crushing of your skull by a two-tonne vehicle. Even my old MSR would not have done that. They are simply impact energy attenuators ie. they absorb the impact of a fall onto a hard surface. The strength of the helmet structure does not matter, as long as it basically stays in one piece.

[yugyug]

I do believe all those holes must weaken the structure.

Nup. Not how bicycle protective helmets have ever been designed to work.

They are not designed to protect from crushing of your skull by a two-tonne vehicle. Even my old MSR would not have done that. They are simply impact energy attenuators ie. they absorb the impact of a fall onto a hard surface. The strength of the helmet structure does not matter, as long as it basically stays in one piece.

Maybe the extra holes in the ice hockey helmet would have meant it failed the now defunct penetration test? Just guessing.

[outnabike]

Just dug out my Rosebank Headway Freeway from 1991. I used it to test cameras ans angles etc. Looking at the label I may have buggered the thing as it says to not modify. Sillicone and plastic bolts did the trick.

Rosebank Helmets
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Rosebank is another Aussie manufacturer now appearing in the U.S. market for the first time. Those who are familiar only with their venerable Stackhat will be surprised by the upscale look of their new helmets, including soft shell and thin shell models. Their thin shells are constructed of GE's Xenoy thermoplastic, which John Rose, their Managing Director (and another very knowledgeable manufacturer), said was a high quality material which requires some care in the manufacturing process. The helmets shown were all certified to the Australian standard, but do not appear on Snell's list. Mr. Rose informed us that three other Australian states have already joined Queensland and Victoria in mandating helmets, and three more will require them as of January, 1992. His comments brought home the fact that we are years behind the Aussies in bicycle helmet use and bicycle helmet standards.

[casual_cyclist]

I do believe all those holes must weaken the structure.

Nup. Not how bicycle protective helmets have ever been designed to work.

They are not designed to protect from crushing of your skull by a two-tonne vehicle. Even my old MSR would not have done that. They are simply impact energy attenuators ie. they absorb the impact of a fall onto a hard surface. The strength of the helmet structure does not matter, as long as it basically stays in one piece.

I can confirm this is how they work in a real world application... of me falling off at moderate speed and striking my helmet on the ground. It would have been a nasty injury if it had been my head but basically the helmet acted as a shock absorber. Of course on the same fall I broke my knee. Maybe helmets for knees should be compulsory too

[Xplora]

Knee pads. Makes it easier to beg for your freedom to do as you choose in a free society too.

[outnabike]

[quote="Xplora"]Knee pads. Makes it easier to beg for your freedom to do as you choose in a free society too.[/quote

Hi Xplora
Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen.

[Xplora]

Not MHL related in the slightest, but I've noticed a lot of the UK head gear popping up over the last 2 years in my area... it's like no one thought it was acceptable to warm their head before, because the headband/earwarmer things look retarded, but all of a sudden half the damn bunch is wearing them. I started wearing a bandanna, that's about as motivated as I can be bothered with

[yugyug]

Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen.

??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..

[Mulger bill]

Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen.

??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..

Self deprecating stereotypical humour done amazingly well

[outnabike]

Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen.

??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..

Sorry yugyug,
Just being an egg and yolking. I never explain my yokes....

[yugyug]

Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen.

??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..

Self deprecating stereotypical humour done amazingly well

Still not getting it...

I lived in Berlin for a year and thought I had come to understand that Germans don't actually have a sense of humour, just a very well refined, almost intangible, sense of irony. But this is not that, is it?

[Xplora]

He's just egging you on, yug

[yugyug]

Stuff it...

Here's a German joke I heard:

Why don't they sell pharmaceutical products in the rainforest?

Because it's sparsely populated and not economically viable.

[Mulger bill]

Germans have to be careful around humour...

[mikesbytes]

I noticed that no one had posted in this thread since Thursday, which must be the longest its been inactive. So I open it up and find its gone off topic

[softy]

I noticed that no one had posted in this thread since Thursday, which must be the longest its been inactive. So I open it up and find its gone off topic

Are you standing backwards or is your helmet on backwards?

[bychosis]

Looked around so quickly after a near miss that the helmet and shoulders are still facing forward.

[Xplora]

Well if nothing else the primary MHL thread has gone quiet

[softy]

To be honest, I think it has all been said here.

Do see quite a lot of freestylers around though.

Time to park this thread for awhile, or till something new on th MHL front arises.

[outnabike]

[quote="Mulger bill"]Germans have to be careful around humour...
He He He
Uncle schcribbler, always laughed at his own jokes. It is the fate of many joker writers....

[Ken Ho]

Being born in Germany, a knee pad on each corner of the head probably makes more sense in my case than a helmet.
And probably cheaper by the dozen.

??? whats that all about? 'scuse my ignorance..

[/quote]


Let me help, with another joke.

How many barbers does it take to shave a Germans head ?
Four, one for each side.

Seriously, have you never heard the expression, "box head" ?
The world is becoming a sadly humourless place.

Disclaimer, I'm not German, but I do claim "Saxon" as my tribe, and my strongest ethnic identity. I speak a smattering, and love Rammstein.

[yugyug]

Box head. Never heard it before. :/ I'm not sure the it was worth after all that, seeing we could have spent the time ranting about helmets, but thank you, hate being the last one to get a joke : /

[yugyug]

And talking about sad and humourless here's a German knock knock joke.
- ~knockknock~
- Ja. Who's there?
- The police. There's been a terrible accident and your wife is in hospital.

Bump-tssshhh.

[outnabike]

It gets worse I am half polish as well....But hey, if a Poland person is a Pole, why is not a Holland person called a Hole?
And I don't recall "Boxhead" being used for Germans. "Squarehead" seemed to be the go. All good fun.

[softy]

Is there a seven second delay....... "beep" function on this forum.

I must of got in before the seven seconds.