2015 cycling fatalities
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby Top_Bhoy » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:01 pm
RIP Joel Hawkins
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby outnabike » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:05 am
If it was a bus lane would he simply have ploughed into it? Doesn't make sense.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby il padrone » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:40 am
Excessive speed, no doubt.outnabike wrote:But why didn't they stop when they saw a cyclist.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby InTheWoods » Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:05 pm
Local article:queequeg wrote:http://m.brisbanetimes.com.au/queenslan ... i4pr9.html
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby Duck! » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:44 pm
EDIT: Drove past there today, and the location of the ghost bike indicates it happened on the opposite side of the road to where I had assumed it to be, so it's before the speed zone changes up to 80. My guess is just an impatient sod who couldn't wait for the truck to turn into the side road.Duck! wrote:Fairly probable. It changes from 80 down to 60 only a short distance up the road, but people frequently disobey the speed change until further down.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:08 pm
It makes sense in the Queensland courts. Refer to death of Richard Pollett.outnabike wrote:I can understand an idiot driving into a bike lane, a bus lane, or an emergency stopping lane, due to impatience. They do it all the time. But why didn't they stop when they saw a cyclist.
If it was a bus lane would he simply have ploughed into it? Doesn't make sense.
Among the defences presented by the offending driver was that he could not move further away from My Pollett as he ws hemmed in by other vehicles in the adjacent lane. Apparently there is no requiremet to simply slow down behind a slower driver/rider. You can simply continue unchecked and roll over him.
Oops, did I say "offending driver'? My bad, the court found that he had done nothing wrong. As far as we know never copped a fine, never lost a demerit point.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby Top_Bhoy » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:33 pm
No surprises here because that would be the same interpretation as the Victorian police. No action against the car driver who struck my handlebars from the rear when lane squeezing at 80 km/h. They really are all a shower of w$%#%^rs. Police and courts want respect - respect has to be earned, not demanded.ColinOldnCranky wrote:It makes sense in the Queensland courts. Refer to death of Richard Pollett.outnabike wrote:I can understand an idiot driving into a bike lane, a bus lane, or an emergency stopping lane, due to impatience. They do it all the time. But why didn't they stop when they saw a cyclist.
If it was a bus lane would he simply have ploughed into it? Doesn't make sense.
Among the defences presented by the offending driver was that he could not move further away from My Pollett as he ws hemmed in by other vehicles in the adjacent lane. Apparently there is no requiremet to simply slow down behind a slower driver/rider. You can simply continue unchecked and roll over him.
Oops, did I say "offending driver'? My bad, the court found that he had done nothing wrong. As far as we know never copped a fine, never lost a demerit point.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:25 pm
In the case it was not the police that got it wrong. From memory it was a lack of direction by the judge to jury to disregard clearly absurd defences put up by defence counsel (there was not one defence that actually made sense). Queensland juries do really come up with some weird decisions.Top_Bhoy wrote:No surprises here because that would be the same interpretation as the Victorian police. No action against the car driver who struck my handlebars from the rear when lane squeezing at 80 km/h. They really are all a shower of w$%#%^rs. Police and courts want respect - respect has to be earned, not demanded.ColinOldnCranky wrote:It makes sense in the Queensland courts. Refer to death of Richard Pollett.outnabike wrote:I can understand an idiot driving into a bike lane, a bus lane, or an emergency stopping lane, due to impatience. They do it all the time. But why didn't they stop when they saw a cyclist.
If it was a bus lane would he simply have ploughed into it? Doesn't make sense.
Among the defences presented by the offending driver was that he could not move further away from My Pollett as he ws hemmed in by other vehicles in the adjacent lane. Apparently there is no requiremet to simply slow down behind a slower driver/rider. You can simply continue unchecked and roll over him.
Oops, did I say "offending driver'? My bad, the court found that he had done nothing wrong. As far as we know never copped a fine, never lost a demerit point.
I think the magistrate may even have paraphrased or implied support for some of those absurd defences.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby Top_Bhoy » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:58 pm
I view the police and courts as one and the same in their contempt and treatment of cyclists.ColinOldnCranky wrote: In the case it was not the police that got it wrong. From memory it was a lack of direction by the judge to jury to disregard clearly absurd defences put up by defence counsel (there was not one defence that actually made sense). Queensland juries do really come up with some weird decisions.
I think the magistrate may even have paraphrased or implied support for some of those absurd defences.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:41 pm
I don't think they have any great contempt for us, even though I do not feel we get a great outcome from either wrt to bikes vs cars. They are both overstretched and they both have severe resource restraints on them. Those are restraints imposed by our governments. I anyone has a contempt for us it would be the governments. But even then it's not contempt, it's inattention. It's just that governments exist to get into and retain government and their inattention to our needs are a function of how well we are perceived by the electorate.Top_Bhoy wrote:I view the police and courts as one and the same in their contempt and treatment of cyclists.ColinOldnCranky wrote: In the case it was not the police that got it wrong. From memory it was a lack of direction by the judge to jury to disregard clearly absurd defences put up by defence counsel (there was not one defence that actually made sense). Queensland juries do really come up with some weird decisions.
I think the magistrate may even have paraphrased or implied support for some of those absurd defences.
I've found that cops, while not being any more perfect than myself, have served me rather well on those few times I have had to call on their services.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:52 pm
Not as a whole but there will always be individuals and it only takes one to bork your day.ColinOldnCranky wrote:I don't think they have any great contempt for us, even though I do not feel we get a great outcome from either wrt to bikes vs cars.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby Top_Bhoy » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:00 pm
Opinions are often based on experience and clearly my experience with the cops is vastly different from yours.ColinOldnCranky wrote:I've found that cops, while not being any more perfect than myself, have served me rather well on those few times I have had to call on their services.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby queequeg » Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:54 pm
I'm told it was a medical condition after the race. Tragic, the guy was only a 15 year oldBluejay87 wrote:I just saw on fb someone died from an incident at a race at the Penrith regatta centre on Sunday? Does anyone have any details?
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby redsonic » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:18 pm
She was the foreign student killed on Annerley Rd South Brisbane last year.
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby outnabike » Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:05 pm
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/new ... 7351911719
[quote]Anakie fatal: Man questioned over harassment of cyclists
A CAR believed to have been involved in a fatal hit-and-run in Anakie on Sunday has been found burnt out.
The car police allege fatally struck 77-year-old Corio cyclist Gordon Ibbs was found at 5pm on Tuesday in Winchelsea.
Police also said a man who had been allegedly terrorising cyclists in the Anakie area is no longer a suspect in the hit-and-run.
It counters earlier information from police that the unknown driver who struck and killed cyclist Gordon Ibbs, 77, may have been responsible for several other cases of road rage directed at cyclists.
Just came across this info, so the police a getting close.
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/new ... 7588788424" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BANDIDOS bikie members are believed to have disposed of the car that killed Corio cyclist Gordon Ibbs in May.
Detectives investigating the case say they are closing in on the male driver, seen ¬behind the wheel of a maroon VT Holden Commodore in the seconds after it slammed into Mr Ibbs on Geelong-Ballan Rd, Anakie, on May 10.
Police say they believe local patched members of the bikie gang moved the car to Wurdiboluc Reservoir, off Cape Otway Rd in Winchelsea, before they set fire to the vehicle in the days after the death.
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Sydney cyclist dies during multiple sclerosis charity bike ride
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:17 pm
Yeah, it was a cardio from what I heard. A lot of very bad accidents today on the Gong ride. The ambulances were working overtime. Rheicel and I attended to several bleeding people who had to have police, ambulance and rescue called for them.find_bruce wrote:Sadly a 53yo cyclist has died on the Sydney to Gong ride today - does not appear to have been a collision, but rather some medical issue.
Sydney cyclist dies during multiple sclerosis charity bike ride
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Re: 2015 cycling fatalities
Postby isabella24 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:54 pm
bigfriendlyvegan wrote:Yeah, it was a cardio from what I heard. A lot of very bad accidents today on the Gong ride. The ambulances were working overtime. Rheicel and I attended to several bleeding people who had to have police, ambulance and rescue called for them.find_bruce wrote:Sadly a 53yo cyclist has died on the Sydney to Gong ride today - does not appear to have been a collision, but rather some medical issue.
Sydney cyclist dies during multiple sclerosis charity bike ride
Geez that's no good
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2015 cycling fatalities
Postby rheicel » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:47 pm
Edit: not fatalities, casualties - is the right word. I was typing too fast and because this is a fatality thread, I ended up typing that word.
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