Legalise riding on footpaths.
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby wellington_street » Mon May 02, 2016 11:34 am
Yep, rule 216 has been amended to remove any reference to riding on shared paths or footpaths. It is now just 'paths'.
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby bychosis » Mon May 02, 2016 1:25 pm
This is one of the reasons we need to have consistent road rules across the whole country. Let's get rid of the state by state variations and go one size fits all. I know they tried, but that just turned into a joke.
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby Thoglette » Mon May 02, 2016 6:06 pm
Be careful what you wish for!bychosis wrote:Let's get rid of the state by state variations and go one size fits all.
That's how we got MHLs and with Vic and NSW now pushing $400+ fines, they'd be the first thing standardised.
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby il padrone » Mon May 02, 2016 8:31 pm
Yeah, you already have that mandatory photo-ID in the pipeline. We don't want it !!
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby high_tea » Mon May 02, 2016 8:46 pm
Fun fact: MHLs predate the ARRs, and aren't standard from state to state (and territory) anyway. They got enacted, so it is said, by the Federal government threatening to make them the condition of a "tied grant" (IOW no MHLs, no money).Thoglette wrote:Be careful what you wish for!bychosis wrote:Let's get rid of the state by state variations and go one size fits all.
That's how we got MHLs and with Vic and NSW now pushing $400+ fines, they'd be the first thing standardised.
Plus they are silent on the matter of fines. That's a matter for each state.
EDIT:I mean the ARRs are silent on the matter of fines.
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby citywomble » Mon May 02, 2016 9:01 pm
Hi,
The revised regulation, in the Road Traffic Code 2000, that came into force last week was regulation 216:
The revised regulation, in the Road Traffic Code 2000, that came into force last week was regulation 216:
This replaced the previous regulation which, in 216 (1) stated that:216.Paths
(1)For the purposes of this regulation, a bicycle is abreast of another bicycle if any part of it is by the side of any part of the other.
(2)The rider of a bicycle on a path must give way to a pedestrian who is on, or is crossing, the path.
Modified penalty: 1 PU
(3)The rider of a bicycle on a path must keep to the left of the path unless it is impracticable to do so.
Modified penalty: 1 PU
(4)The rider of a bicycle on a path must not ride so that the bicycle is travelling abreast of any other bicycle on the path.
Modified penalty: 1 PU
(5)Subregulations (3) and (4) do not prevent a rider from overtaking or passing other persons on the path.
a rider of a bicycle that is 12 years of age or older shall not ride on a footpath that is not a shared path or a separated footpath
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby il padrone » Mon May 02, 2016 11:02 pm
Yes, this is quite correct.high_tea wrote:Fun fact: MHLs predate the ARRs, and aren't standard from state to state (and territory) anyway. They got enacted, so it is said, by the Federal government threatening to make them the condition of a "tied grant" (IOW no MHLs, no money).Thoglette wrote:Be careful what you wish for!bychosis wrote:Let's get rid of the state by state variations and go one size fits all.
That's how we got MHLs and with Vic and NSW now pushing $400+ fines, they'd be the first thing standardised.
Plus they are silent on the matter of fines. That's a matter for each state.
Victoria started the ball rolling with a state government embattled at the polls and seeking to get some credit for its road safety actions through the RACV and the media. So bike helmets were an easy sop to the masses. A few years later the Keating Government held the other states over a barrel over roads funding to ensure that all states enacted bicycle helmet laws.
When the Sydney Morning Herald, the IPA, and CRAG all agree on this, you know there is more than a thread of truth to it.
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby cj7hawk » Tue May 03, 2016 1:26 am
Thank you -citywomble wrote:The revised regulation, in the Road Traffic Code 2000, that came into force last week was regulation 216:
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby il padrone » Tue May 03, 2016 7:46 am
So now all of WA's allegedly wonderful bicycle paths are single-file only ?? Oh greatcitywomble wrote:Hi,
The revised regulation, in the Road Traffic Code 2000, that came into force last week was regulation 216:
216.Paths
(1)For the purposes of this regulation, a bicycle is abreast of another bicycle if any part of it is by the side of any part of the other.
(2)The rider of a bicycle on a path must give way to a pedestrian who is on, or is crossing, the path.
Modified penalty: 1 PU
(3)The rider of a bicycle on a path must keep to the left of the path unless it is impracticable to do so.
Modified penalty: 1 PU
(4)The rider of a bicycle on a path must not ride so that the bicycle is travelling abreast of any other bicycle on the path.
Modified penalty: 1 PU
(5)Subregulations (3) and (4) do not prevent a rider from overtaking or passing other persons on the path.
Mandatory helmet law?
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Legalise riding on footpaths.
Postby citywomble » Tue May 03, 2016 9:21 am
Hi IP,
They always have been. The changes to reg 216 have only removed the prohibition for riders over 12 from riding on a footpath and specified the same conditions for path riding that had ready and still applies to shared paths. It has always been an offence under the RTC 2000 to ride two abreast on a shared path.So now all of WA's allegedly wonderful bicycle paths are single-file only ?? Oh great
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