Who gives a warning. . .
-
- Posts: 71
- Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:16 pm
Who gives a warning. . .
Postby HausFinch » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:01 pm
-
- Posts: 1046
- Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:41 pm
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby march83 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:05 pm
-
- Posts: 1230
- Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:13 am
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby AdelaidePeter » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:03 pm
Only tonight I saw two cyclists almost crash, because the slower front one veered off his line just as the other was passing. In my mind the passing cyclist was more at fault, because there's no law saying the front one must ride in a straight line. [EDIT: This was on a shared path, and the front cyclist was on a BMX].
- cyclotaur
- Posts: 1782
- Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:36 pm
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby cyclotaur » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:08 pm
I hate being belled. It’s like using a horn all the time when you’re driving.
My old blog - A bit of fun
"Riding, not racing...completing, not competing"
-
- Posts: 2842
- Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:44 pm
- Location: Middle East, Melbourne
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby ironhanglider » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:08 pm
Whilst a bell can seem a little impersonal or even aggressive, the way it is used has a big impact. I find many people use the bell too late, and it only brings a startled response, which is at best unpredictable. If it is rung early enough, people have time to register its meaning and respond. IME people appreciate having time to do so.
I pass a lot of walkers (and an occasional cyclist) and I ping the bell from about 5s out and then say "Morning" or "Evening" as appropriate as I pass, particularly to those who have acknowledged with a gesture or movement that they have heard me. I get a lot of no-responses, but enough greetings and thank-you's for me to continue to do so.
Cheers,
Cameron
- DavidS
- Posts: 3631
- Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:24 pm
- Location: Melbourne
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby DavidS » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:38 pm
DS
-
- Posts: 1230
- Joined: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:13 am
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby AdelaidePeter » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:35 pm
I completely agree. The trick is to ring it far enough back to not startle them, but close enough so they hear. This applies both for pedestrians, and cyclists who are much slower than me.ironhanglider wrote: Whilst a bell can seem a little impersonal or even aggressive, the way it is used has a big impact. I find many people use the bell too late, and it only brings a startled response, which is at best unpredictable. If it is rung early enough, people have time to register its meaning and respond. IME people appreciate having time to do so.
When overtaking a cyclist who is only slightly slower, there's less need to ring, because I'm inching past not whooshing past.
-
- Posts: 631
- Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:42 pm
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby Jmuzz » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:21 pm
You know, obey the rules like it's a real road.
Zero oncoming traffic, good vision, but still have to pass with a few inches gap in the same lane having some pro race peleton fantasy.
The same riders usually do the same to pedestrians which causes tension and gets them carrying sticks (I encounter one who carrys a red ski pole and makes a show of keeping it pointed backwards at 45deg protrusion) or walking on the wrong side.
- jaseyjase
- Posts: 2993
- Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:00 pm
- Location: Perth
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby jaseyjase » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:54 am
- make sure the path is wide enough with no oncoming traffic
- look ahead of the rider to see if theres anything obstructing them which may cause them to veer into me when i do pass
- moderate my speed, if i feel i cant overtake quick enough i might hang back a bit.
alot easier when passing only one rider, bit trickier when its a bunch.
- Mububban
- Posts: 3043
- Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:19 pm
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby Mububban » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:18 pm
Sometimes though I just pass if the rider is way left and I can go wide right, and the speed differential is enough for me to pass quickly. If it's a closely matched speed, I always use the bell.
- P!N20
- Posts: 4032
- Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:50 pm
- Location: Wurundjeri Country
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby P!N20 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:09 pm
-
- Posts: 71
- Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:16 pm
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby HausFinch » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:01 pm
I'm not against fast riding, and admit I can be as hard charging as anyone on wheels at times. But I never blow past people without giving them a heads up. Scrubbing sand out of flesh is not the outcome I'm after. Just last week I collided with a guy head on as we both came round a blind corner. He admitted he was looking in the wrong direction. He was fine. I had three deeply scored and bleeding knuckles.
- find_bruce
- Moderator
- Posts: 10579
- Joined: Mon May 09, 2011 8:42 pm
- Location: Sydney
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby find_bruce » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:24 pm
- g-boaf
- Posts: 21315
- Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:11 pm
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby g-boaf » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:20 pm
Perfect! Best response of all - exactly what was needed.P!N20 wrote:Firstly I arrange a community consultation meeting to gauge the concerns of the affected parties, then I put up a sign 30 days prior to the pass clearly stating my intentions and procedures for lodging an objection. If no objections are received I e-mail the passee with details and timing of the pass, followed up with a phone call to confirm receipt of the e-mail. Once the pass has been completed I request the passee to complete an anonymous survey on how I could have passed better.
-
- Posts: 1062
- Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:30 pm
- Location: Bundoora, Melbourne
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby nezumi » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:48 am
I touched the anchors and called out at him - no response as I passed.
Further up the path I turned off and joined the road (one of the many intersections where the lights are painful to cyclists). As I did so, the lane I went into got a green light so I kept going and turned back onto the shared path - he called out at that point, yelling something about me not giving way(?)
Maps location for reference: https://www.google.com.au/maps/dir/-37. ... m2!4m1!3e1
2015 Merida Scultura 5000
- AUbicycles
- Site Admin
- Posts: 15583
- Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:14 am
- Location: Sydney & Frankfurt
- Contact:
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:20 am
-
- Posts: 1437
- Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:14 pm
- Location: Perth
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby twowheels » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:06 am
-
- Posts: 6179
- Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:06 pm
- Location: Mill Park
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby fat and old » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:09 am
-
- Posts: 116
- Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:51 am
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby 1Rowdy1 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:08 pm
- kb
- Posts: 2570
- Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:22 pm
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby kb » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:33 am
Join the folk who “give a warning” when others pass them1Rowdy1 wrote:I'm trying to remember if I have ever been fast enough to pass someone.
- g-boaf
- Posts: 21315
- Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:11 pm
Re: Who gives a warning. . .
Postby g-boaf » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:26 pm
HausFinch wrote:Very funny. That sounds like an ethics application I filed recently to do research at ANU. You seem to know the drill. The best way to avoid accidents is to cease forward motion entirely.
I'm not against fast riding, and admit I can be as hard charging as anyone on wheels at times. But I never blow past people without giving them a heads up. Scrubbing sand out of flesh is not the outcome I'm after. Just last week I collided with a guy head on as we both came round a blind corner. He admitted he was looking in the wrong direction. He was fine. I had three deeply scored and bleeding knuckles.
Fast riding isn't the problem, you've got to be really alert at all times. And even more so in a big group of riders (say 50 or more). All it takes is a narrowing road, road furniture or a sharp turn and if someone isn't paying attention it can result in a big accident.
Return to “Cycling Safety and Advocacy”
- General Australian Cycling Topics
- Info / announcements
- Buying a bike / parts
- General Cycling Discussion
- The Bike Shed
- Cycling Health
- Cycling Safety and Advocacy
- Women's Cycling
- Bike & Gear Reviews
- Cycling Trade
- Stolen Bikes
- Bicycle FAQs
- Serious Biking
- Audax / Randonneuring
- Retro biking
- Commuting
- MTB
- Recumbents
- Fixed Gear/ Single Speed
- Track
- Electric Bicycles
- Cyclocross and Gravel Grinding
- Dragsters / Lowriders / Cruisers
- Children's Bikes
- Cargo Bikes and Utility Cycling
- Road Racing
- Road Biking
- Training
- Time Trial
- Triathlon
- International and National Tours and Events
- Cycle Touring
- Touring Australia
- Touring Overseas
- Touring Bikes and Equipment
- Australia
- Western Australia
- New South Wales
- Queensland
- South Australia
- Victoria
- ACT
- Tasmania
- Northern Territory
- Country & Regional
- The Market Place
- Member to Member Bike and Gear Sales
- Want to Buy, Group Buy, Swap
- My Bikes or Gear Elsewhere
- Cycling Brands
- Cannondale
- Garmin
- Giant
- Shimano
- Trek
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: redsonic
- All times are UTC+11:00
- Top
- Delete cookies
About the Australian Cycling Forums
The Australian Cycling Forums is a welcoming community where you can ask questions and talk about the type of bikes and cycling topics you like.
Bicycles Network Australia
Forum Information
Connect with BNA
This website uses affiliate links to retail platforms including ebay, amazon, proviz and ribble.