Melinda Howells, ABC online wrote: A Brisbane cyclist has been left with a fractured ankle after a shocking clash with a pedestrian, which was captured on bike-mounted cameras.
James Stevenson said he was riding to work in the Brisbane CBD on October 10 when he brushed past a man on the footpath on Hutton Lane.
"I moved over to the left as far left as possible so both of us could pass on our way," Mr Stevenson said.
"Unfortunately, he didn't seem to want to give me much room, so our shoulders touched.
"I didn't give it much thought and just carried on. Next thing I know is I feel a punch from behind.
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Postby simurs4 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:44 pm
Thats always a troubling statement to read. It's pretty clear cut what happened going by that video, no further information required.She asked anyone with information about the incident to contact QPS.
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Postby Scott_C » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:11 pm
Hopefully we do see some appropriate Police action from this.A Brisbane cyclist has been left with a fractured ankle after a shocking clash with a pedestrian, which was captured on bike-mounted cameras.
James Stevenson said he was riding to work in the Brisbane CBD on October 10 when he brushed past a man on the footpath on Hutton Lane.
"I moved over to the left as far left as possible so both of us could pass on our way," Mr Stevenson said.
"Unfortunately, he didn't seem to want to give me much room, so our shoulders touched.
"I didn't give it much thought and just carried on. Next thing I know is I feel a punch from behind.
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby madmacca » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:12 pm
Regardless of positioning on the footpath, a punch from behind is assault. Does Queensland have specific One Punch laws?Shred11 wrote:The law requires cyclists to keep left on footpaths and shared paths. The cyclist was doing nothing wrong.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...
Postby AdelaidePeter » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:17 pm
Maybe they need public help to identify the assailant.simurs4 wrote:Thats always a troubling statement to read. It's pretty clear cut what happened going by that video, no further information required.She asked anyone with information about the incident to contact QPS.
p.s. Obviously there was no excuse for the attack, but IMO the cyclist should have passed on the right, or stopped. There just wasn't room to pass on the left.
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Postby bychosis » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:27 pm
Except that the vast majority of peds would have stepped to the left without a thought to allow a fellow human to pass by without causing contact and no need to stop, the usual exception being one of those ipeds not looking where they are going.AdelaidePeter wrote:but IMO the cyclist should have passed on the right, or stopped. There just wasn't room to pass on the left.
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby AdelaidePeter » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:28 pm
The law requires us to give way to pedestrians, which the cyclist didn't quite do. And certainly in SA, it would have been legal for the cyclist to pass on the right; we only need to pass other cyclists on the left. I think the cyclist should have passed on the right, or stopped.Shred11 wrote:The law requires cyclists to keep left on footpaths and shared paths. The cyclist was doing nothing wrong.
But of course nothing justifies the retaliation; the pedestrian should be charged with assault.
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby Cheesewheel » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:09 am
If providence should conspire to grant you 15 minutes of fame under similar conditions, therein lie a few clues about suitable keywords to drop to the press gallery.
What struck me was how juvenile captain beefheart appeared. Middle aged office worker suddenly undergoes a hormonal change and turns into the equivalent of an antisocial 16 year old disenfranchised from society .... I'm not sure that is what they mean when they say cycling makes people feel younger ... Hopefully this gets broader news coverage, complete with enlarged images of captain beefheart's mug.
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Postby eldavo » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:13 am
Path if least commute probably find the guy indignantly on the same corner tomorrow same bat time.
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Postby Cheesewheel » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:59 am
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Postby Cheesewheel » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:24 am
That's clear assault. Even if there was a substantial thump in the shoulder pass, to then run and pursue to smack them in the back of the head (and subsequently knock them off their bike and fracture their ankle) is assault. The moment you pursue and attack, you automatically lose most of your hopes to claim defense ..... moreso if such doofusness is captured on camera and the cloudiness of conflicting testimony gets somewhat aired.Usernoname wrote:Hopefully police action, but unlikely. Best outcome his employers get outed and shamed into doing something. Wearing some sort of access card, so fuel for employer to link.
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby biker jk » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:22 am
The bully would then have stepped to his left causing a collision. The bully was determined to produce an incident.AdelaidePeter wrote:The law requires us to give way to pedestrians, which the cyclist didn't quite do. And certainly in SA, it would have been legal for the cyclist to pass on the right; we only need to pass other cyclists on the left. I think the cyclist should have passed on the right, or stopped.Shred11 wrote:The law requires cyclists to keep left on footpaths and shared paths. The cyclist was doing nothing wrong.
But of course nothing justifies the retaliation; the pedestrian should be charged with assault.
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby outnabike » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:23 am
But it is hard in the spur of the moment.
Probably lucky he got punched and not been hit with a 30 kg lunch bag....
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby biker jk » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:58 am
You're displaying fat phobia. Have some compassion. You don't understand what it's like living in a world of small lunch bags.outnabike wrote:I know it's a bit hard to cover all bases, but that lady in the back ground might have been a good eye witness to get a statement from.
But it is hard in the spur of the moment.
Probably lucky he got punched and not been hit with a 30 kg lunch bag....
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby find_bruce » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:25 am
simurs4 wrote:Thats always a troubling statement to read. It's pretty clear cut what happened going by that video, no further information required.She asked anyone with information about the incident to contact QPS.
Where the police want to identify someone they usually say so directly.AdelaidePeter wrote:Maybe they need public help to identify the assailant.
What I suspect is that the video shows the assault, but what it doesn't show is assault causing the cyclist to fracture his ankle. The reason that is important to police is that in Qld common assault is a misdemeanor (minor crime) with a maximum penalty of 3 years in prison, & often punished with just a fine, whereas assault occasioning bodily harm is a much more serious offence with a maximum penalty of 7 years in prison & more often results in time in prison
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby jasonc » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:40 am
Yes.madmacca wrote: Does Queensland have specific One Punch laws?
My take: charge cyclist with failing to give way -~$200 fine
Charge ped with one punch attack. He goes to jail
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby Jmuzz » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:44 am
Cartman then turned it into assault, which also happens between pedestrians.
Should all be pretty simple case of assault if he can be identified.
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby Jmuzz » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:48 am
I think they apply to death, not just punching someone from behind. That's just normal assault.madmacca wrote:Does Queensland have specific One Punch laws?
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby jasonc » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:31 am
Appears you are right. Sadly. So just common assualtJmuzz wrote:I think they apply to death, not just punching someone from behind. That's just normal assault.madmacca wrote:Does Queensland have specific One Punch laws?
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Re: Queensland Cyclist Assaulted by Pedestrian
Postby Cheesewheel » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:17 pm
Maybe it could be my fixation on his similarity to Ian the Clumate Denialist Potato, but I think that is a big lump of coal and not his lunchbag in his hand.biker jk wrote:You're displaying fat phobia. Have some compassion. You don't understand what it's like living in a world of small lunch bags.outnabike wrote:I know it's a bit hard to cover all bases, but that lady in the back ground might have been a good eye witness to get a statement from.
But it is hard in the spur of the moment.
Probably lucky he got punched and not been hit with a 30 kg lunch bag....
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