Giant Propel
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Giant Propel
Postby Sydguy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:47 am
Thoughts? Anyone got insight on pricing?
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby HAKS » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:02 pm
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/g ... es--36210/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Giant will offer three Propel Advanced SL models in March:
the $10,000 SL 0 with Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 9070 and Giant's new Contact SLR Aero Integrated one-piece bar and stem
the $7,500 SL 1 with Dura-Ace 9000 and separate Giant Contact SLR Aero carbon handlebar and stem
the $7,000 SL 2 with the same bar and stem but a SRAM Red 2012 group
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Re: Giant Propel
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby Benny_SL » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:57 pm
I'll be having a good look on the weekend in Adelaide.
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:16 am
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby Howzat » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:01 pm
Yikes. Now's the moment that the other top brands kind of wish that their bikes weren't being made in Giant factories - on the "less aerodynamic and heavier" production line.Giant – once averse to making direct comparisons – now boldly calls out several key competitors as being not only less aerodynamic but heavier, too.
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Re: Giant Propel
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby MarkG » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:41 pm
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby doggatas » Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:05 pm
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby Lukeyboy » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:51 am
Its fast, super light, very stiff (bumpy repatched potholes still aren't your friends at speed), changing direction multiple times in very quick succession is just an absolute joy, it can leave tyre marks on the ground around fast corners as I found out during a couple shakedown runs along newly resuraced sections of bikeway at *cough*"10kph" (I reckon the chap who was sitting on the grass was wondering Say What I was doing going around that same corner time after time haha), goes like the clappers when climbing (providing you have the right cassette depending on your engine and climbing ability) and descents are really fast when in the aero position. Its very good under braking with the ability to leave skid marks while not locking the wheel. Picking up the tempo/pace for a chase is flawless even if in a gear too high. Gear changes are nice and light. Going into a good headwind the steering gets a little heavy at speed but you can still maintain the pace as you slice through it. Light/medium crosswinds are hardly noticable. Strong crosswinds (say from an approaching thunderstorm that has black/red/yellow on the BOM radar right on top of you as you're racing home so the bike doesn't get wet ) like most other light bikes with aero wheels and crosswinds can be an issue but I've really only noticed it as an issue when doing anything over 60kph/speedy descents when it comes and goes in gusts but the only thing that does is put a smile on your face with a few giggles here and there. That's pretty much the only time I have experienced crosswind issues. There's been a few windy rides but I hardly even noticed them until I caught some traffic lights and noticed the tree branches swaying. All up its in the 6-7kg catagory with the waterbottle cages and the GPS attached (2x Elite Custom Race cages and a Garmin 800).
The SL1 is only available in mechanical DuraAce. SL0 has DuraAce Di2 and yet to hit the Aussie market is a SL2 in SRAM red and SL3 in mechanical Ultegra. The SL2 RRP in the USA is $1000 more than the RRP of the SL1 here. The SL3 RRP in the USA for 5.1K. (personally not a fan of the SL2 and SL3 liveries - Majority black frame with Red parts, Orange decals and White or red on the seat post; Similar to the blue on the seatpost on the SL0 - http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_generate ... SP_red.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; yuk!).
There's not much too it. The frame is the same across all the models with the livery, components and the resulting weight being the only difference.
Stem and aerodynamic handlebars. The handle bars aren't round but oval, like an aeroplane or racing car spoiler so things like k-Edge GoPro/GPS mounts and Barfly mounts won't attach to them. They feel weird... more awkard at first compared to the normal round bars but you can have a really relaxed hand position for the longer rides. IIRC apparently there are also aero clip on bars coming out soon so you can easily convert the bike into a TT or triathlon setup for a Saturday morning event and then using the same bike minus the clip on bars for a crit race that afternoon.
It would have been excellent if they had incorporated a GPS mount into the larger chunky stems to maintain the aero profile instead of placing it directly ontop of the stem but the issue with that would be how big do you make the stem cutout for the size of different GPS units.
The v-brakes are as simple as quick release brakes. Just pull the cable attachment out from the left and the whole thing unlocks.
No need for other ANT+ bike sensors as Giant already has them built into the frame of the bike (comes with its own pedal magnet). Just sync it to a new bike profile on your GPS (if you run multiple bikes with different sensors) and away you go.
Cable routing is inside the frame for that aero advantage.
Not much of a gap with 23 tyres. 25 would be a very tight squeeze. I can only just manage to get a rag in there to clean it without removing the wheel.
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby kunalraiker » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:51 pm
That's a nice review, very precise and to the point,overall - has you're Avg improvedLukeyboy wrote:Sorry. Been busy and when there has been sun I haven't been on it. Rain on the other hand
Its fast, super light, very stiff (bumpy repatched potholes still aren't your friends at speed), changing direction multiple times in very quick succession is just an absolute joy, it can leave tyre marks on the ground around fast corners as I found out during a couple shakedown runs along newly resuraced sections of bikeway at *cough*"10kph" (I reckon the chap who was sitting on the grass was wondering WT? I was doing going around that same corner time after time haha), goes like the clappers when climbing (providing you have the right cassette depending on your engine and climbing ability) and descents are really fast when in the aero position. Its very good under braking with the ability to leave skid marks while not locking the wheel. Picking up the tempo/pace for a chase is flawless even if in a gear too high. Gear changes are nice and light. Going into a good headwind the steering gets a little heavy at speed but you can still maintain the pace as you slice through it. Light/medium crosswinds are hardly noticable. Strong crosswinds (say from an approaching thunderstorm that has black/red/yellow on the BOM radar right on top of you as you're racing home so the bike doesn't get wet ) like most other light bikes with aero wheels and crosswinds can be an issue but I've really only noticed it as an issue when doing anything over 60kph/speedy descents when it comes and goes in gusts but the only thing that does is put a smile on your face with a few giggles here and there. That's pretty much the only time I have experienced crosswind issues. There's been a few windy rides but I hardly even noticed them until I caught some traffic lights and noticed the tree branches swaying. All up its in the 6-7kg catagory with the waterbottle cages and the GPS attached (2x Elite Custom Race cages and a Garmin 800).
The SL1 is only available in mechanical DuraAce. SL0 has DuraAce Di2 and yet to hit the Aussie market is a SL2 in SRAM red and SL3 in mechanical Ultegra. The SL2 RRP in the USA is $1000 more than the RRP of the SL1 here. The SL3 RRP in the USA for 5.1K. (personally not a fan of the SL2 and SL3 liveries - Majority black frame with Red parts, Orange decals and White or red on the seat post; Similar to the blue on the seatpost on the SL0 - http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_generate ... SP_red.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; yuk!).
There's not much too it. The frame is the same across all the models with the livery, components and the resulting weight being the only difference.
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby Lukeyboy » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:34 pm
Edit: The weight differences in the different size stems.
Clamp Length Angle Steerer Weight
31.8mm 70mm +/- 8° 1-1/4" 115g
31.8mm 80mm +/- 8° 1-1/4" 120g
31.8mm 90mm +/- 8° 1-1/4" 125g
31.8mm 100mm +/- 8° 1-1/4" 130g
31.8mm 110mm +/- 8° 1-1/4" 135g
31.8mm 120mm +/- 8° 1-1/4" 140g
31.8mm 130mm +/- 8° 1-1/4" 145g
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby g-boaf » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:23 pm
My own Giant has Ridesense as well. Very useful not needing to use that ugly Garmin cadence and speed sensor. My Trek had this sort of thing ages ago - good to see others are doing similar.
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby Baldy » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:48 pm
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Re: Giant Propel
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby bosvit » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:25 pm
Cheers
Good review btw
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby Lukeyboy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:18 am
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Re: Giant Propel
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby g-boaf » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:57 pm
I don't think they do either. The standard one doesn't fit. I had to use a K-Edge on my TCR Advanced SL.HAKS wrote:The 3T garmin stem would incorporate the GPS nicely although i'm not sure if they make a 1 1/4 version to fit the Giant steerer tube
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby Lukeyboy » Thu May 16, 2013 12:42 pm
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Re: Giant Propel
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby g-boaf » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:05 pm
Confirming just in case anyone needs to know that this will not work at all. Doesn't fit. So you'll need to use the K-Edge mount instead.HAKS wrote:The 3T garmin stem would incorporate the GPS nicely although i'm not sure if they make a 1 1/4 version to fit the Giant steerer tube
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Re: Giant Propel
Postby HAKS » Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:29 pm
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