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2017 Range
Postby Duck! » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:10 pm
Nothing yet of a TCR Disc; however Giant haven't yet shown their full 2017 hand. The main launch for the rest of the range is in about a month, so everything else will be revealed then.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby stevenaaus » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:24 pm
There's some pretty decent discounts in the giant stores at the moment on the old models.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby Duck! » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:20 pm
Why would that be interesting? Only the most entry level aluminium Defies have rim brakes; all others are disc-specific. As I mentioned previously, the Advanced gets a rejig to take flat-mount rather than post-mount calipers; it's a reasonable assumption that the Advanced SL will get the same tweak, and also not implausible the aluminium disc models will also get the revision.stevenaaus wrote:Interesting to see if the new Defys still come with disc brakes.
What will be interesting is if the TCR Disc, which had been added to the UCI-Approved list prior to the suspension of the pro disc brake trial, will see the light of day or remain on ice.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby stevenaaus » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:10 pm
They're absolutely great at the bottom of a long hill, and you can overtake plenty on the brakes, but otherwise - the TPR pads arent great, i had to replace one set, they're noisier, and need cleaning fairly often and add a little weight i think. Lots of old hands ask about them, and sort of nod and say that they're mayeb not worthwhile, though it's a close call.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby Duck! » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:45 pm
Also the aluminium Defy range has been rejigged & scored a new name - Contend. As with the old Defy range, the entry models keep rim brakes, the better ones gain discs and a different grade alloy (6013 Aluxx SL), bringing a SL suffix, over the standard 6061 Aluxx alloy. The Defy name continues on the carbon models.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby chriso_29er » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:48 pm
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby stevenaaus » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:24 am
The disc bikes (all?) get through axles, and a price hike.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby Duck! » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:53 pm
Not all. I built up a Contend SL Disc (aluminium Defy successor) this morning, still quick release at that level. My understanding is it's all the carbon ones that get through-axles.stevenaaus wrote:The disc bikes (all?) get through axles, and a price hike.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby Duck! » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:27 pm
The XTC is where the funky stuff happens. The new frame is cleverly designed with sliding dropouts to allow the fitting of regular 29" or "semi-fat" 27.5+ wheels, and[/] the option of single-speed. The XTC, as with last year, is carbon only.
All new, and filling a glaring gap between the Talon series and XTC vacated by the departed alloy XTC, is the aluminium hardtail Fathom series, available in both 27.5" and 29" options. The 27.5 gets a 120mm fork, while the 29" gets 100mm.
No details on specs & pricing yet, that will come out in the launch in a few weeks.
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Re: 2017 Range
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Re: 2017 Range
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby djw47 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:30 pm
Nice, thanks! I'll keep an eye out next week and see what is announced.Duck! wrote:The official launch is at the end of next week, so pricing & availability will be announced then. At present there is only one model available in the lower Advanced (typically only the fork and wheels differ between Advanced and Advanced Pro) series; details on the Pro and SL models (if we get them) will come at the launch.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby li2099 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:06 pm
Been wanting to find an excuse to upgrade from my 2013 TCR Advanced for ages.
Will need to research on the SRAM eTap as it replaced the DA Di2.
After seeing the eTap on GCN, it didn't interest me as much as the new DA.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby Duck! » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:34 pm
Details will emerge from the launch this weekend, but I'm suspecting & hoping the e-Tap versions will run alongside Di2 rather than replace them. Due to the timing of release of the new Dura-Ace groupset, any such models won't be available right away, but will trickle in a bit later in the year.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby Duck! » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:41 pm
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Re: 2017 Range
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby stevenaaus » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:42 pm
Changes for the Defy Ad2 are a 105 crankset, and hydraulic brakes and thru axles i think.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/tcr-advanced-1-disc
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/defy-advanced-2
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby li2099 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:33 pm
Looks like also a 11-32 cassette on the Defy which also means medium cage RD instead of 11-28 and short cage on the TCR.stevenaaus wrote:The Defy Ad2 and The TCR Ad1 disc are the same list price, but the TCR has Ultegra railers and crankset instead of 105. The only feature the Defy has that TCR does not is the DFuse seat post, is it ?. Proably the TCR post is stiffer i guess.
Changes for the Defy Ad2 are a 105 crankset, and hydraulic brakes and thru axles i think.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/tcr-advanced-1-disc
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/defy-advanced-2
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby Duck! » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:50 pm
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby stevenaaus » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:22 pm
My 2016 Defy Ad already has an 11-32t. Yes, they'e a medium cage.... not as snappy a shift as the short cage, but it goes ok.li2099 wrote:Looks like also a 11-32 cassette on the Defy which also means medium cage RD instead of 11-28 and short cage on the TCR.
Aside - I'm not sure i need the 32 anymore now i'm a bit stronger, but it's nice for social stuff. Went with my brother round the Cooth saturday morning with the big ring just as a relaxing ride at his speed, saving my energy for the sunday ride.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby Duck! » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:03 pm
Given the upper body - the bit that actually determines the shift quality - is exactly the same for both types, any difference in shift quality is more to do with the greater jumps between ratios, or it's in your head....stevenaaus wrote: My 2016 Defy Ad already has an 11-32t. Yes, they'e a medium cage.... not as snappy a shift as the short cage, but it goes ok.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby kb » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:45 am
Although I've noticed a bent hanger has a larger effect on a longer cage.Duck! wrote:Given the upper body - the bit that actually determines the shift quality - is exactly the same for both types, any difference in shift quality is more to do with the greater jumps between ratios, or it's in your head....stevenaaus wrote: My 2016 Defy Ad already has an 11-32t. Yes, they'e a medium cage.... not as snappy a shift as the short cage, but it goes ok.
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Re: 2017 Range
Postby li2099 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:06 pm
Been reading through but can't find a clear answer.
Will quick release version of the Defy from 2015/2016 mean there will be not wheel upgrades for me later on as the new 2017 Defys have thru-axles now?
I've been looking at run out sales of the 2015/2016 Defy Advanced SL1 as they are now about 20% off.
If I pick up the current 2017 models with thru-axles, I'm looking at $1k-$2k more. (Price hike plus no discount)
What I'm concerned is wheel compatibility later on down the track as most of us will definitely want to upgrade that later on.
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Re: 2017 Range
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