Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby Nobody » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:22 pm
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby Gordo » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:02 am
i was told a moonlander was about 3200$. is that right? seems a little steep for a bike with no suspension. those wheels must cost a fortune or something?
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby trailgumby » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:20 am
Small production runsGordo wrote:how much would that go for?
i was told a moonlander was about 3200$. is that right? seems a little steep for a bike with no suspension. those wheels must cost a fortune or something?
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby mitzikatzi » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:01 am
Complete bikes will be available around March with an MSRP of $1950.
The complete production bike will feature:
1×10 Shimano SLX gruppo (mostly)
Salsa Whammy handlebar
Frames and tires and rims will be available this Fall with an MSRP of $750 for the frame only.
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby Gordo » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:04 pm
i asked a bikeshop about moonlander pricing and they said 3200. ....so i assume they'd sting me for the same with the krampus
been pricing santa cruz bikes too. yanks pay 1100 for superlight 29er frame (single pivot dually), ozzies pay 1600$. Is that markup all freight? doubt it coz they only mark up the tallboy frame (VPP suspension) up 225$ (1925 -->2150)
was kinda interested in the superlight 29er, but for the price we ozzies have to pay for it i'm probably better off making the jump to the tallboy.
seems we aussies get gouged a bit eh!
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby mitzikatzi » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:14 pm
and your just working this out?Gordo wrote:..snip...
seems we aussies get gouged a bit eh!
Wiggle sell Surly 1x1 frames for about $550 plus post . I suspect Krampus frames will turn up at the usual online (ship to Oz) shops for less than the US MSRP posted to Oz. New frame with custom tubesets for the frame. I wouldn't suspect much in the way of a discount at first. It is not the frame cost that would concern me but the wheel and tyre costs.
Most product can be found for sale online for less than the US MSRP.
For Surly prices ask Elvis on Rotorburn.
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby Gordo » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:41 pm
but thanks for all that btw
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby Jean » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:18 pm
A Superlight 26" frame (including shock) is about $1350 from TBSM. They don't stock the 29er version (yet).Gordo wrote:2 grand for a complete bike. i take it thats U.S prices though
i asked a bikeshop about moonlander pricing and they said 3200. ....so i assume they'd sting me for the same with the krampus
been pricing santa cruz bikes too. yanks pay 1100 for superlight 29er frame (single pivot dually), ozzies pay 1600$. Is that markup all freight? doubt it coz they only mark up the tallboy frame (VPP suspension) up 225$ (1925 -->2150)
was kinda interested in the superlight 29er, but for the price we ozzies have to pay for it i'm probably better off making the jump to the tallboy.
seems we aussies get gouged a bit eh!
http://tbsm.com.au/bike-frames/xc-trail ... frame-1390
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby Gordo » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:49 pm
thanks for that jean, but im' going the 29er route...eventuallyJean wrote:A Superlight 26" frame (including shock) is about $1350 from TBSM. They don't stock the 29er version (yet).Gordo wrote:2 grand for a complete bike. i take it thats U.S prices though
i asked a bikeshop about moonlander pricing and they said 3200. ....so i assume they'd sting me for the same with the krampus
been pricing santa cruz bikes too. yanks pay 1100 for superlight 29er frame (single pivot dually), ozzies pay 1600$. Is that markup all freight? doubt it coz they only mark up the tallboy frame (VPP suspension) up 225$ (1925 -->2150)
was kinda interested in the superlight 29er, but for the price we ozzies have to pay for it i'm probably better off making the jump to the tallboy.
seems we aussies get gouged a bit eh!
http://tbsm.com.au/bike-frames/xc-trail ... frame-1390
prob buy local though. think they will knock a little off too and be able to match any online prices here? (bookmarked that link though). Im just a little disappointed at the excessive markup on the superlight compared to tallboy really. The current sl29 only has fox RL shock (tallboy has rp2), newer frames in about 8weeks will have the ctd shock i'm told. so i'm hanging out till then and see what 'appens. rode the 29er and it was nice. looks cool. low maintenance, as low as u can get without being hardtail. no press fit bb. Santa cruz bearings apparently kick a$$...and i only have to worry about one. Sl29 has a neat simplicity that really appeals to me. we'll see.
good luck with ur 29er build. will be interesting to see the final product
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby Jean » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:13 am
Yes I was having fantastic thoughts about building a Superlight 26 (its simplicity and the regard in which the frame is held being very attractive) when I saw that they were releasing a 29er. I can understand holding out for it.Gordo wrote:thanks for that jean, but im' going the 29er route...eventually
prob buy local though. think they will knock a little off too and be able to match any online prices here? (bookmarked that link though). Im just a little disappointed at the excessive markup on the superlight compared to tallboy really. The current sl29 only has fox RL shock (tallboy has rp2), newer frames in about 8weeks will have the ctd shock i'm told. so i'm hanging out till then and see what 'appens. rode the 29er and it was nice. looks cool. low maintenance, as low as u can get without being hardtail. no press fit bb. Santa cruz bearings apparently kick a$$...and i only have to worry about one. Sl29 has a neat simplicity that really appeals to me. we'll see.
good luck with ur 29er build. will be interesting to see the final product
I am still toying with the idea of building one up, but the current build has been more involved and prolonged than I would have liked and I'm in no hurry at the moment. I've also got a too long serving 'interim' road bike that needs updating. A dualie will have to wait I think, but a Superlight (be it 26 or 29) will be one that I'll keep thinking about.
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
Postby Nobody » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:04 am
Just checked out the geometry chart. I like the idea of increasing the ETT and reducing the stem length. Head angle looks fairly slack at 69.5 degrees. Seat angle is good too at 72.5 degrees across the range. Makes fitting a Brooks easier.
Something worth highlighting though.
Like the new colour of the KM too.However, if you go with our 50mm rims and 3˝ tires (and why wouldn’t you?) then plan to use a 1x or 2x crank…a triple simply won’t clear the tire. For best chain/tire clearance, we recommend either a Surly MWOD 2x crank or a 1x system. Other brands’ 2x cranks will work but may cause some chain-on-tire rub in the easiest gear combo.
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Re: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tir
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