New GP4000S II out now

[GeoffInBrisbane]

I wonder if they'll last longer than 1000 km ?

Why do you wonder that?

Had a terminal blowout on my GP4000S this morning. At over 9800km exclusively on the rear wheel I've no complaints...

[eeksll]

I wonder if they'll last longer than 1000 km ?

Why do you wonder that?

Had a terminal blowout on my GP4000S this morning. At over 9800km exclusively on the rear wheel I've no complaints...

I didn't get half that. I didn't quite get 4000km. There was still a small amount of life according to the markers, but the tread was splitting/cracking up so thought there was little reason to continue using it.

[GeoffInBrisbane]

Pretty interesting - I've had to bin Vittorias before at under 4500km, so was delighted with 9800.

Also 4000 is a long way from under 1000km which Jim seems to have experienced.

[jasonc]

Pretty interesting - I've had to bin Vittorias before at under 4500km, so was delighted with 9800.

you're a lightweight geoff - I've seen wet paper that weighs more than you

[eeksll]

Pretty interesting - I've had to bin Vittorias before at under 4500km, so was delighted with 9800.

I did originally have 23c vittoria zaffiros on roadie, which I pretty much wore down to the canvas. I don't think they lasted as along as the gp4000s either. But this was back in the day when i pumped them up to 140psi as that was the max inflation pressure written on the sidewall.

Also 4000 is a long way from under 1000km which Jim seems to have experienced.

I think Jim was just exaggerating a low figure to get a point across.

[biker jk]

Pretty interesting - I've had to bin Vittorias before at under 4500km, so was delighted with 9800.

Also 4000 is a long way from under 1000km which Jim seems to have experienced.

The Continental GP4000S is a softer compound than Vittoria Rubino Pros or Zaffiros, so I'd be very surprised if they last longer. I average 5,000-6,000km on Rubino Pros, so would expect the Contis to be somewhat less,

[jimsheedy]

Pretty interesting - I've had to bin Vittorias before at under 4500km, so was delighted with 9800.

I did originally have 23c vittoria zaffiros on roadie, which I pretty much wore down to the canvas. I don't think they lasted as along as the gp4000s either. But this was back in the day when i pumped them up to 140psi as that was the max inflation pressure written on the sidewall.

Also 4000 is a long way from under 1000km which Jim seems to have experienced.

I think Jim was just exaggerating a low figure to get a point across.

Ok I admit I exaggerated a tad. It was 2000k's before they started to wear out and they were totally useless before 3000 km. That last 1000 km cost me a small fortune in tubes as I refused to believe that a tyre evryone bangs on about so much could be so useless. They rode really well but I would put them in the race only category.

I contacted conti and they reckoned that was a reasonable amount of time for them to wear.

Disclaimer: I had the black chilli compound ones.

[GeoffInBrisbane]

Pretty interesting - I've had to bin Vittorias before at under 4500km, so was delighted with 9800.

Also 4000 is a long way from under 1000km which Jim seems to have experienced.

The Continental GP4000S is a softer compound than Vittoria Rubino Pros or Zaffiros, so I'd be very surprised if they last longer. I average 5,000-6,000km on Rubino Pros, so would expect the Contis to be somewhat less,

Can't remember which Vittoria it was, but the back one was done at 4200km. Maybe I just got a bad one?

Ok I admit I exaggerated a tad. It was 2000k's before they started to wear out and they were totally useless before 3000 km. That last 1000 km cost me a small fortune in tubes as I refused to believe that a tyre evryone bangs on about so much could be so useless. They rode really well but I would put them in the race only category.

I contacted conti and they reckoned that was a reasonable amount of time for them to wear.

Disclaimer: I had the black chilli compound ones.

Very strange. I use the black chilli ones too, as do many other people I ride with. I asked one 95kg guy what he got out of his Contis, he said 4500km.

Pretty interesting - I've had to bin Vittorias before at under 4500km, so was delighted with 9800.

you're a lightweight geoff - I've seen wet paper that weighs more than you

Shaddap you! Coot Tha tomorrow, but too much beer and pizza this week, no records for me...

[warthog1]

I didn't get half that. I didn't quite get 4000km. There was still a small amount of life according to the markers, but the tread was splitting/cracking up so thought there was little reason to continue using it.

I'm lucky to get about 4k out of the rear as well. I weigh about 74kg.
I'm don't know how everyone keeps track of their k's so accurately. With 3 bikes and 5 rear wheels to choose from I can only guesstimate.

[jasonc]

I'm don't know how everyone keeps track of their k's so accurately. With 3 bikes and 5 rear wheels to choose from I can only guesstimate.

a spreadsheet which i fill in type of ride, bike, cassette, wheels, front tyre, rear tyre, kms and a few other things you don't really need

[lobstermash]

I'm don't know how everyone keeps track of their k's so accurately. With 3 bikes and 5 rear wheels to choose from I can only guesstimate.

a spreadsheet which i fill in type of ride, bike, cassette, wheels, front tyre, rear tyre, kms and a few other things you don't really need

Strava keeps track of the kms for me. Handy tool, that...

[jasonc]

I'm don't know how everyone keeps track of their k's so accurately. With 3 bikes and 5 rear wheels to choose from I can only guesstimate.

a spreadsheet which i fill in type of ride, bike, cassette, wheels, front tyre, rear tyre, kms and a few other things you don't really need

Strava keeps track of the kms for me. Handy tool, that...

meh. spreadsheet is easier - i use it for lots of things

[Xplora]

Your list of things implies that you really need the rest of the list, Jason

Strava can't even come close if you are trying to track equipment life to that level

[eeksll]

I didn't get half that. I didn't quite get 4000km. There was still a small amount of life according to the markers, but the tread was splitting/cracking up so thought there was little reason to continue using it.

I'm lucky to get about 4k out of the rear as well. I weigh about 74kg.
I'm don't know how everyone keeps track of their k's so accurately. With 3 bikes and 5 rear wheels to choose from I can only guesstimate.

I am at the 80kg mark.

Tracking the weekend bike is easy, one bike, one set of wheels, one set of tyres and strava.

The other commute bikes ... no idea in the last couple of years, I keep changing tyres/wheels so no idea on that one. I started to do manual entries in strava for the drivetrain, starting to wonder if its even worthwhile.

[g-boaf]

Pretty interesting - I've had to bin Vittorias before at under 4500km, so was delighted with 9800.

I did originally have 23c vittoria zaffiros on roadie, which I pretty much wore down to the canvas. I don't think they lasted as along as the gp4000s either. But this was back in the day when i pumped them up to 140psi as that was the max inflation pressure written on the sidewall.

Also 4000 is a long way from under 1000km which Jim seems to have experienced.

I think Jim was just exaggerating a low figure to get a point across.

Ok I admit I exaggerated a tad. It was 2000k's before they started to wear out and they were totally useless before 3000 km. That last 1000 km cost me a small fortune in tubes as I refused to believe that a tyre evryone bangs on about so much could be so useless. They rode really well but I would put them in the race only category.

I contacted conti and they reckoned that was a reasonable amount of time for them to wear.

Disclaimer: I had the black chilli compound ones.

Those are the same ones I've used. Admittedly I'm only 58-59kg - I'm getting around 4000km out of them. I do use them quite hard. I am pleased with them being fairly puncture resistant.

[warthog1]

These look like just a tart up of the existing tyre, probably to reduce sales losses to the new schwalbe tyre
http://cycletechreview.com/2013/reviews ... one-tyres/

[jasonc]

Strava can't even come close if you are trying to track equipment life to that level

running multiple bikes, multiple wheelsets, multiple cassettes with a combo of different tyres, strava ain't gonna cut it

[Xplora]

I'd figure if you were that organised you would be able to look at the cassette and decide when to throw it in the bin/turn it into mad art?

[Nobody]

These look like just a tart up of the existing tyre, probably to reduce sales losses to the new schwalbe tyre
http://cycletechreview.com/2013/reviews ... one-tyres/

Interesting. Thanks for posting. I suspect the One is going to be expensive. Someone's got to pay for that new factory so they can save a few Watts.

Haven't seen that site before.

I'm not Conti's biggest fan after the Gators and so I'll keep buying Duranos for now. The older Durano had stringy sidewalls (threads would come away) but by the time I got the more recent one, the problem seems to be fixed. Hard to fault otherwise.

[jasonc]

I suspect the One is going to be expensive.

http://www.probikekit.com.au/bicycle-ty ... 65784.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

$63

[eeksll]

These look like just a tart up of the existing tyre, probably to reduce sales losses to the new schwalbe tyre
http://cycletechreview.com/2013/reviews ... one-tyres/

I thought "the one" was a full blown race tyre and the gp4000s is more a weekender tyre ?

I'm not Conti's biggest fan after the Gators and so I'll keep buying Duranos for now. The older Durano had stringy sidewalls (threads would come away) but by the time I got the more recent one, the problem seems to be fixed. Hard to fault otherwise.

I have the durano plus which is a damn heavy tyre. I also notice that Schwalbe have quite a few other Duranos, (not to mention they have different variants of all their tyres) makes it bloody confusing what is what.

[Nobody]

I suspect the One is going to be expensive.

http://www.probikekit.com.au/bicycle-ty ... 65784.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
$63

Thanks. Too expensive for my non-racer taste, but unlikely to deter the racers.

[Nobody]

I have the durano plus which is a damn heavy tyre. I also notice that Schwalbe have quite a few other Duranos, (not to mention they have different variants of all their tyres) makes it bloody confusing what is what.

Mine are the standard Durano folding in 23.
http://www.this link is broken/au/e ... -prod91410" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[warthog1]

I thought "the one" was a full blown race tyre and the gp4000s is more a weekender tyre ?

I reckon the GP4000S is conti's fastest clincher tyre or is marketed roughly as such. It's proven pretty durable for a race tyre so is very popular.
Schwalbe is saying the one is more durable and puncture resistant than the ultremo zx so I guess it might win a few conti fans.

[biker jk]

I thought "the one" was a full blown race tyre and the gp4000s is more a weekender tyre ?

I reckon the GP4000S is conti's fastest clincher tyre or is marketed roughly as such. It's proven pretty durable for a race tyre so is very popular.
Schwalbe is saying the one is more durable and puncture resistant than the ultremo zx so I guess it might win a few conti fans.

Although Schwalbe is setting the bar pretty low given that the Ultremo ZX isn't very durable or puncture resistant. I only used them on criterion circuits and they cut up very quickly. Great grip and low rolling resistance but you wouldn't want to use them outside of racing. I doubt they 'd last 2,000km and would likely puncture at the sight of any glass.