Buying a Canyon
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Buying a Canyon
Postby Pravda » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:17 pm
Here's my plan and I'm hoping for some advice or holes picked in it from you.
Basically I'm going to be in Europe for about 3 weeks in July (yes catching some of the tour) and I'm hoping to use this opportunity to pick up a Canyon during a brief stopover in Germany.
Ideally I'd like to just buy a frame - Aerode CF which retails for around 1700 euros. Is there anyway I can avoid paying duty on the frame when leaving the EU - I'll be taking the bike to France before I fly out - and can I also avoid paying duty when I arrive back in Aus (i'm thinking this is impossible).
As far as I can tell, and from visiting Germany particularly before, as long as I can get Canyon to fill out a VAT form I can claim the tax back when I leave Germany/EU. So as long as canyon are willing to play ball this part should be relatively simple.
Getting it back into Aus without paying I'm thinking won't be possible as far as I know I have to have used it for it not to be liable and as I'm planning on buying a frame only and not planning on using it this wont be easy. Though perhaps I could take it out of the box run around with it pretending it's a wheel-less cyclocross bike - that'd count right?
Let me know what you think.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby AUbicycles » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:29 pm
On reclaiming the tax (Mehrwertsteuer / MwSt) give yourself time at the airport. I have never done it but here is the info from Frankfurt Airport how it works.
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On the purchase, consider that you will have difficulty with warranty should this situation arise. I don't see any issue with eligibility, but it will be a tougher process and the brands responsibility for covering transport costs outside of the EU will be limited.Fraport wrote:Please note that you must request a tax refund check when buying items.
On Australian customs - for items over $1000 you will be liable to pay tax and I would be prepared to do so. Of course there are situations where the customs offers may then not request the tax.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby slian » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:05 pm
Good luck with it, I was pretty keen on them too a few years back while I was looking for my next upgrade.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby Pravda » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:38 pm
Yeah that's the other plan, however it depends on me having enough cash to buy the bike outright.slian wrote:How about buy a whole bike (as they are pretty keen value), have it delivered ahead to contacts/addresses where you'd be staying, use it during the tour and bring it back as used bike?
Good luck with it, I was pretty keen on them too a few years back while I was looking for my next upgrade.
TLL: It's not a tour so much, more a holiday bookended by the tour. I'm only planning on riding once and should be able to hire a bike for a reasonable price. Obviously if I went down the road of buying a full bike. I'm also not that keen on my first real ride on a bike being up Alpe d'Huez.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
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Re: Buying a Canyon
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Re: Buying a Canyon
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Re: Buying a Canyon
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby trailgumby » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:29 pm
Give it to someone who actually values your business.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby Pravda » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:33 pm
Not so much being pig-headed they made the point that because their bikes are cheaper already because of not having wholesalers etc Plus I really want one of their bikes. I'm not sure what the reason they can't sell to Australia but I assume there's a good reason for it.trailgumby wrote:If Canyon is being so pig-headed and uncooperative, why are you gracing them iwth your hard-earned?
Give it to someone who actually values your business.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby PommieYeti » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:33 pm
haven't told my wife about the buying the bike part yet .........
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby Pravda » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:39 pm
Def pick up a 2nd hand one in the UK i looked at getting a new one sent there and they're quite a bit more expensive ($3-500 on a $4k bike).
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:32 pm
I see quite a few of them around, they seem to have good back up service here as well.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby jacks1071 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:36 pm
I tried to buy one a few years back and gave up which is saying something as giving up is not something I generally do.trailgumby wrote:If Canyon is being so pig-headed and uncooperative, why are you gracing them iwth your hard-earned?
Give it to someone who actually values your business.
They are a nice frame for sure but there is pleanty of nice frames you can buy without the headache.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby AUbicycles » Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:50 pm
I told them about the Australian cyclist interest in Canyon Bikes and they actually had a genuine interest however they cited the legals as being too much of a hurdle and specifically with their business model, the customer service and warantie which would be costly outside of Europe. This is coupled with the size of the Australian market - while it wasn't mentioned specifically, Canyon Bikes would automatically prioritise on high-volume markets such as the USA.
Canyon are also not the online factory direct type of brand in Germany / Europe - in fact these brands are very well known and also enjoy a good reputatio however find it hard to make the leap to Australia.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby Fitzroy » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:54 pm
"Happy Birthday!", I hope you like your present!mogwaiboi wrote:would it be possible for him to fudge the figure below $1000???
Sent as gift, declared as a $ Amt to be less than $1,000 AUD. Be Aware postage is included in the $1,000, so $1,000 - Postage from the UK = $ Amt of frame.
Official paperwork to be sent a few weeks latter.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby mogwaiboi » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:49 pm
Nice! Thanks for that FitzroyFitzroy wrote:"Happy Birthday!", I hope you like your present!mogwaiboi wrote:would it be possible for him to fudge the figure below $1000???
Sent as gift, declared as a $ Amt to be less than $1,000 AUD. Be Aware postage is included in the $1,000, so $1,000 - Postage from the UK = $ Amt of frame.
Official paperwork to be sent a few weeks latter.
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Re: Buying a Canyon
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:29 pm
Take a look at the exemptions available on complete bikes.
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