Carbon road frames, what options, threaded BB?

singlespeedscott · Postby **singlespeedscott** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:11 pm

No ability to fit a real tyre size would be a deal breaker for me.

warthog1 · Postby **warthog1** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:22 pm

Anything with a build date post 1970 would be a deal breaker for you.

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warthog1 · Postby **warthog1** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:19 pm

Willier izoard xp.

http://axaracycles.com/index.php?page=s ... &Itemid=53

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/wilie ... d-xp-frame

usernameforme · Postby **usernameforme** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:56 am

I'd be aware of the first link, looks like a scam to me...

Competitive cyclist is a good online store though, not sure if they ship to AUS.

jacks1071 · Postby **jacks1071** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:15 pm

Bentnose wrote:
So are you saying I could fit a 25mm tyre on a Cuneo? Also when do you expect to have white ones in a large?

I think so (on the L-54 and larger). If you place an order I'll unpack one and check it before sending if that is a must have for you.

Recently anyone asking about wide tyres, I've sold them the Merano wide rim wheels and they run a 23mm tyre which gives them the wide tyre (a 23mm tyre on a wide rim is as wide if not wider than a 25mm tyre on a standard narrow rim) but in a lower profile which reduces the chance of rub. They don't rub on the chain stays, its the seat tube that they can touch.

L-54 size I can't do white, have pleanty of stock in Matt Black.

I can do you a Bella GP in that size though, in White. Its the same frame except with carbon seat stays.

warthog1 · Postby **warthog1** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:34 pm

usernameforme wrote:I'd be aware of the first link, looks like a scam to me...

Competitive cyclist is a good online store though, not sure if they ship to AUS.

That's embarrassing if it is

I have had no dealings with them.
I saw that t7 did have them for a sub 1k price but are sold out.

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cage · Postby **cage** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:25 pm

Yeah, its a scam unfortunately...there's a couple of threads on 2 different forums.

http://forums.mtbr.com/bike-frame-discu ... 58856.html

http://www.bikeforums.net/manufacturer- ... nesia.html

Bentnose · Postby **Bentnose** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:31 pm

Yeah first thing I did was check if it was a scam. The Izoard from Competitive cyclist is a bit pricey for me, especially when you add on postage.

ldrcycles · Postby **ldrcycles** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:06 pm

But then the material can only suggest what the ride qualities are going to be like, i have an aluminium frame that rides more smoothly than any steel frame i've ever had, yet climbs better than the carbon frame i had. Actual time on the seat is what will tell you if a bike is right for you or not.

warthog1 · Postby **warthog1** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:10 pm

Bentnose wrote:Yeah first thing I did was check if it was a scam. The Izoard from Competitive cyclist is a bit pricey for me, especially when you add on postage.

Sorry about that. I have heard some good feedback on those frames. Glad you were on the ball.

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usernameforme · Postby **usernameforme** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:56 pm

Just spotted on competitve cyclist they have some sizes of the Fuji Altamira 1.1 left for $900

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/fuji- ... -BLA-S55CM#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's a steal if they've got one in your size. We've got a local team sponsored by Fuji, they really rate their Altamira and SST frames

Bentnose · Postby **Bentnose** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:55 pm

usernameforme wrote:Just spotted on competitve cyclist they have some sizes of the Fuji Altamira 1.1 left for $900

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/fuji- ... -BLA-S55CM#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's a steal if they've got one in your size. We've got a local team sponsored by Fuji, they really rate their Altamira and SST frames

It's BB86 though, good price.

usernameforme · Postby **usernameforme** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:02 pm

looking to fit a BB30 crank?

If you're looking to run shimano BB86 is the shimano standard.

TBH I don't see the fuss about threaded bb (I'm going to get flamed for this), but the press fit standards work well, they generally work out to be lighter and creaking is only an issue if you don't know what you're doing.

warthog1 · Postby **warthog1** » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:18 pm

This page is scam free I reckon. http://www.this link is broken/au/e ... t=pricelow

Some good Ridley options there, depending on your size.

Bentnose · Postby **Bentnose** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:04 am

usernameforme wrote:looking to fit a BB30 crank?

If you're looking to run shimano BB86 is the shimano standard.

TBH I don't see the fuss about threaded bb (I'm going to get flamed for this), but the press fit standards work well, they generally work out to be lighter and creaking is only an issue if you don't know what you're doing.

I personally find the external BB cups to be the easiest to work on, I have the tools and they won't stop making threaded BB cups any time soon. You said it all in your comment, "it's only an issue if you don't know what your doing", which means I'd probably have to visit a bike shop to get one fitted or have issues learning how to do it, buying the tools etc, I avoid bike shops like the plague generally. I also don't like the marketing hype about extra stiffness as they are no longer limited by the BB shell, I don't need extra stiffness.

Bentnose · Postby **Bentnose** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:09 am

warthog1 wrote:This page is scam free I reckon. http://www.this link is broken/au/e ... t=pricelow

Some good Ridley options there, depending on your size.

Yeah I've looked at them, all aluminium under $1k, probably less than I'd like to spend, c r c are coming up on the end of the current frames they are selling and will most likely have new ones of who knows what soon, so I'm also waiting for them to come out, I'll be ready to pounce. When the Ridley's first came out I'm pretty sure there were quite a few carbon options just under $1K. I'm in no rush, frame this year, gradually buy the other bits to match the frame taking advantage of specials, groupset last so I get the latest, only plan to have it on the road 2016 with a 2016 groupset hopefully.

warthog1 · Postby **warthog1** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:23 pm

Bentnose wrote:
warthog1 wrote:This page is scam free I reckon. http://www.this link is broken/au/e ... t=pricelow

Some good Ridley options there, depending on your size.
Yeah I've looked at them, all aluminium under $1k, probably less than I'd like to spend, c r c are coming up on the end of the current frames they are selling and will most likely have new ones of who knows what soon, so I'm also waiting for them to come out, I'll be ready to pounce. When the Ridley's first came out I'm pretty sure there were quite a few carbon options just under $1K. I'm in no rush, frame this year, gradually buy the other bits to match the frame taking advantage of specials, groupset last so I get the latest, only plan to have it on the road 2016 with a 2016 groupset hopefully.

In that case can you stretch to a lynskey?

Quality remains long after price is forgotten.

singlespeedscott · Postby **singlespeedscott** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:13 pm

I don't think Lynskey have a good rep for durability.

warthog1 · Postby **warthog1** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:31 pm

I think I better just shut up on this thread. If I'm not putting up scam sites I'm recommending dud frames. I thought they were good?
I haven't owned one but they have a lifetime warranty. There is a few negatives on the net that I could see but that is apparent for any frame manufacturer.

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usernameforme · Postby **usernameforme** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:44 am

Lifetime warranty either means you'll be disappointed to find out what's in the fine print

Or you'll continually be replacing frames

Linskey probably set it up so if you do get a did, they'll replace it, hopefully with a good frame. Saves a bit of q/c

ldrcycles · Postby **ldrcycles** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:15 am

Cos titanium lasts forever, or so the advertising goes...

Given pretty much every photo online of failed ti frames is cracking, i suspect that other than bad welding the problem is either they are using excessively thin walled tubing, or a grade that is too brittle for the job. If someone gave me a ti frame i wouldn't hesitate to ride it but there's no way i'd be sinking my own hard earned on a time bomb.

warthog1 · Postby **warthog1** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:03 am

People rave about Baums though which is just a welded collection of ti tubing.
Very well welded apparently.
I have a mate who absolutely loves his.
I'd like to give ti a go at some stage. I haven't got the moula for a Baum however.
I've cracked the other 3 major materials so might as well complete the set.
I hadn't heard it was prone to cracking before. It's probably like anything if you make it too light though.

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Bentnose · Postby **Bentnose** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:20 pm

I was thinking of saving more and buying a Ti frame (for life?) but reading some of the above comments, probably better off doing what I do now, replace the frame/bike every 10 years or so.

I have an On One Inbred steel MTB and it is looking a bit scuffed up after 3 years of abuse, less than $200 to replace that with another On One, maybe there is something to be said for riding cheap frames; as long as they ride well.

koshari · Postby **koshari** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:39 pm

Nothing wrong with crmo. Even better if u can get it cheap.

koshari · Postby **koshari** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:40 pm

ldrcycles wrote:Cos titanium lasts forever, or so the advertising goes...

Recall I heard a similar claim made about CDs many years ago.