2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

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2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby SeanD380 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:39 pm

Hi All

Recently bought the above bike and like it a lot. Have done 1000km's on it and able to keep a pace of a little over 30kmh on my usual run.

On reading other peoples opinions on the bike they all say, great bike, but needs a wheel upgrade.

It came with Bontrager Approved wheels, have been looking at other Bontrager wheels, plus some Zonda's and Shimano's. Suspect with tyres etc the wheels account for 50% of the weight on the bike.

Anyone else got this bike and upgraded the wheels?

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby bianchi928 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:20 am

HI Sean,

My wife and I ride Domane 5.9's .

We both upgraded to Bontrager RXL's and they are fantastic. I kept the set of Bontrager Racelites that came with mine and raced on them. Also a very good wheelset.

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby jasonc » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:45 am

what do you weigh?
i run bracciano's on my domane 5.2

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby rjk » Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:48 pm

what do you weigh and what is your budget,
I am 95kg and i put hed ardennes cl plus in a 25mm width wheel on my domane P1
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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby Xplora » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:25 pm

I have a feeling the 4.3 comes with the bottom end wheelset. I'm thinking you enjoy some speed, I'd consider Aura 5's with tubeless R3s or possibly the Shimano c35s if you are less than 70kgs for better control in the wind. That keeps it cheap"ish" and decent quality. The Aura 5 is the RXL with a carbon fairing. I like mine. If you can afford Aoelus 3s, more power to you ;)

I have found that I just won't ride at all if the wind is enough to push me on my Aura 5s.

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby SeanD380 » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:30 pm

Hi I weight 93kg and dropping.

Yes and I like to keep a high average speed.

Aero wheels are appealing for the bling factor. Would like to buy a set that will last for a while and across bikes as I see myself getting big into cycling.

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby Xplora » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:49 pm

Aero wheels aren't bling if you're averaging 30kmh after a short period. It makes a good difference above 40kmh, and there is definite benefit in the lower speeds as well. I reckon it's worth .5kmh to the average. Definitely worthwhile.

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby rjk » Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:46 am

check out the threads for the swiss side hadrons, look pretty good and i have ordered a pair
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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby SeanD380 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:40 pm

Out of interest I weighed the bike + wheels and wheels only.

Bike weighted 9kg only addition was the water bottle cage.

The wheels alone weighed 3.3kg inc cassette and skewers. Surely I can knock almost a kg of this??
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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby jasonc » Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:36 pm

SeanD380 wrote:Out of interest I weighed the bike + wheels and wheels only.

Bike weighted 9kg only addition was the water bottle cage.

The wheels alone weighed 3.3kg inc cassette and skewers. Surely I can knock almost a kg of this??
if you went shimano RS81 c24 - ~1450g
cassette ~250
tubes ~160g for 2
tyres - gp4000 II - 420g for a pair

so 2280g + skewers

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby Homo Suburbiensis » Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:52 pm

Do you personally feel like the wheels are heavy or limiting you in some way?

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby Homo Suburbiensis » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:09 pm

jasonc wrote:
SeanD380 wrote:Out of interest I weighed the bike + wheels and wheels only.

Bike weighted 9kg only addition was the water bottle cage.

The wheels alone weighed 3.3kg inc cassette and skewers. Surely I can knock almost a kg of this??
if you went shimano RS81 c24 - ~1450g
cassette ~250
tubes ~160g for 2
tyres - gp4000 II - 420g for a pair

so 2280g + skewers
Some estimated weights for Domane 4.3

Wheels - ???
Rim tape-
Cassette - Tiagra 12-30 - 340 grams
tubes ~200g for 2
tyres - Bontrager R1 25 wirebead- 680 for the pair
Skewers (estimation) ~100-150 grams

At 3.3kg this makes the wheels around the 2kg mark. An upgrade to lighter alloy wheels at a reasonable price would make a weight saving of 500-600 grams. You could save more weight by buying new tyres,latex tubes, titanium skewers and veloplugs but in the grand scheme of things you could splash out $10k for the bike and still lose more total weight (bike +rider weight, which is what matters anyway) from your own body (providing that you are not already skinny). So don't get too hung up about the weight.

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby SeanD380 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:54 pm

Homo Suburbiensis wrote:Do you personally feel like the wheels are heavy or limiting you in some way?

They feel heavy on inclines, but that may be my mind playing tricks.

Also would like something a little more aero. As I like to keep a high average pace.
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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby Xplora » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:56 pm

Be careful what you wish for with lighter wheels/tubes/tyres. You can certainly knock weight off with each of these things, but the reliability of racing tyres and tubes and wheels is much much less than sloggers, which you are using now. This is a lot more important if you're 30kms away from home with no one to pick you up because you've used up all your CO2 and the pump died. It happens :idea:

The 4.3 is not the top level frame. It's good, but you are missing a lot of stuff that makes the bike light off the showroom floor.

You want aero, try out my suggestions and make the call. I'm sceptical about how heavy the wheels feel... have you compared them to much lighter wheels on this bike on the same climbs?

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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby SeanD380 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:03 pm

Xplora wrote:Be careful what you wish for with lighter wheels/tubes/tyres. You can certainly knock weight off with each of these things, but the reliability of racing tyres and tubes and wheels is much much less than sloggers, which you are using now. This is a lot more important if you're 30kms away from home with no one to pick you up because you've used up all your CO2 and the pump died. It happens :idea:

The 4.3 is not the top level frame. It's good, but you are missing a lot of stuff that makes the bike light off the showroom floor.

You want aero, try out my suggestions and make the call. I'm sceptical about how heavy the wheels feel... have you compared them to much lighter wheels on this bike on the same climbs?
Thanks good points. This is my first real road bike in 20 years, so have no reference point really.

Maybe I should speak to the local bike shop about loaning some to try.
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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby Xplora » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:48 pm

If they have half a brain they'll work hard to keep you on the Bontrager wheels. Aura5s aren't bad wheels at all. I'd be happy with the rims combined with a much lighter hub to make them more climb friendly.

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Postby flashpixx » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:49 pm

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I went with Bonty RXL and R3 tubeless on my Domane 5.2
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Re: 2014 Trek Domane 4.3 Wheel Upgrade

Postby SeanD380 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:11 am

Just an update, for now I purchased a set of Fulcrum Racing 3's. They were on offer for $400 at Torpedo7.

For $400 they are a solid improvement compared to the Bonty Approved wheels.
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