Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
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Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby denwol » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:05 pm
I have a 2007 Gitane Mach2200 that I enjoy riding. I do about 200km/week and average about 25-28km/hr depending on the day and how many hills on the route I choose.
I weigh about 105kg.
I have a set of H Plus Son TB-14s on 105 hubs.
These were quite cheap and they feel nice, but I have never had anything else so can't really compare it to anything.
How do these compare to Fulcrum 5s or similar shop wheels?
Would I get any sought of performance increase by changing hubs?
What wheels do you suggest would give a noticeable improvement in performance?
Budget $400-600
Thanks
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby denwol » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:07 pm
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby thecaptn » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:37 pm
http://www.this link is broken.au/campagnolo-zon ... -wheelset/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Noticably better than Fulcrum 7 and not much different to Fulcrum 0 I recon. Good tough wheels, same as Fulcrum 3 pretty much but normally about $50 cheaper. If you shop around you can get them for under $400.
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby Derny Driver » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:58 pm
I know everyone bangs on about wheels but I can name a number of A grade racing cyclists and NRS riders who use wheels like Fulcrum 7s or Mavic Equipes. Sure if you can pick up an upgrade cheap then grab it but don't think that different wheels will make any noticeable difference.
If you're gonna toss the 105's can I have first dibs please?
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby rodneycc » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:41 pm
But I also agree with Derny about your current wheels not being too shabby and its more "the engine" thats important.
But hey I'd still buy a nice new set and have fun comparing (and brag that you have a spare set)
Edit: I've got 5 bikes and an extra 3 spare wheelsets so I'm tipping you are due for something new.. .
( sorry couldn't help myself)
Btw keep an eye out on the market place here on BNA some great and cheap wheelsets come up from time to time.
I've picked up my zondas and C24s from here actually!
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby CXCommuter » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:26 am
I agree- and the TB14 rims look great and the 105 hubs roll well and are super reliable- you would have to send up big to get even a small improvement- enjoy the current wheelset- when it gets past its use by date then think about what else is out there (BTW I am using H Plus Son Archetypes and love them)Derny Driver wrote:Shoot me down ... but denwol, what you have there is a good wheelset. Changing wheels does nothing for performance except in your head. Not sure why you want better performance anyway. Unless you go to carbon tubbies like a Zipp 404 or something you wont notice a thing, and even then it would be minor.
I know everyone bangs on about wheels but I can name a number of A grade racing cyclists and NRS riders who use wheels like Fulcrum 7s or Mavic Equipes. Sure if you can pick up an upgrade cheap then grab it but don't think that different wheels will make any noticeable difference.
If you're gonna toss the 105's can I have first dibs please?
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby rodneycc » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:49 am
http://www.this link is broken.au/h-plus-son-arc ... -wheelset/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And the Zondas are cheaper but I'd say pretty much on par with your current set..
http://www.this link is broken.au/campagnolo-zon ... -wheelset/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Food for thought.
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby denwol » Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:00 pm
As I said, I have nothing to compare mine with and since I got mine very cheaply, and they are quite heavy (like me) I wasn't sure what I really have. There are no real comparisons on the web that I could find.
Rodneycc, my wheels are a little different in that mine are square 23mm rims. I think your right though, just one of those n+1 things maybe. The Zondo's do look nice
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby denwol » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:02 pm
You have saved me hundreds + probable disappointment.
I will stick with what I have:)
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby Tim » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:09 pm
I thought it was a chronic disease. Must be superior genes and common sense at work.
How refreshing.
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby denwol » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:56 pm
I'm sure the bug will be back. Maybe Ill try a different saddle:)Tim wrote:I think this is the first time I've ever seen anyone overcome the upgraditis bug.
I thought it was a chronic disease. Must be superior genes and common sense at work.
How refreshing.
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby thejester » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:17 pm
Selle smp saddle and ceramic jockey wheels and Time pedals and titanium chainring bolts and new bar tape and Teflon inner cables and and and....
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby brett.hooker » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:44 pm
I also bought some fulcrum zeros, and again, definitely nicer that the 3's.
That said, the 3's are an excellent wheel unto themselves. I have kept the 3's as my spares, sold the c24'a and I ride the Zeros.
I am happy with my purchases.
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Postby thecaptn » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:50 pm
What are you going to have on the new Roubaix?brett.hooker wrote:C24's are excellent. Noticed a difference between them and the fulcrum 3's that were on my bike.
I also bought some fulcrum zeros, and again, definitely nicer that the 3's.
That said, the 3's are an excellent wheel unto themselves. I have kept the 3's as my spares, sold the c24'a and I ride the Zeros.
I am happy with my purchases.
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Postby TDC » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:05 pm
Treat yourself to some really good 320 tpi tyres. Brown sidewall veloflex masters look great on TB14 rims.denwol wrote:Thank you all,
You have saved me hundreds + probable disappointment.
I will stick with what I have:)
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby denwol » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:24 pm
That seems like a good idea. Should I go 23 or 25s? Any real difference?TDC wrote:Treat yourself to some really good 320 tpi tyres. Brown sidewall veloflex masters look great on TB14 rims.denwol wrote:Thank you all,
You have saved me hundreds + probable disappointment.
I will stick with what I have:)
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby jacks1071 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:41 pm
Checkout the Pro-Lite Bracciano A42's. They'd be perfect for you. I'd recommend 25mm tyres at 10psi less pressure than you run with 23mm tyres.denwol wrote:Hi,
I have a 2007 Gitane Mach2200 that I enjoy riding. I do about 200km/week and average about 25-28km/hr depending on the day and how many hills on the route I choose.
I weigh about 105kg.
I have a set of H Plus Son TB-14s on 105 hubs.
These were quite cheap and they feel nice, but I have never had anything else so can't really compare it to anything.
How do these compare to Fulcrum 5s or similar shop wheels?
Would I get any sought of performance increase by changing hubs?
What wheels do you suggest would give a noticeable improvement in performance?
Budget $400-600
Thanks
If you don't agree they were a good upgrade after a month, send them back and I'll refund your money.
http://www.pro-liteoz.com/store/bracciano-a42.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Postby colinmc400 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:52 am
Maybe one of these days i'll ride the same route and see if there really is a time/speed difference, or if its all in the head and me trying to justify the upgraditis.
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Re: Please suggest what wheels would make a nice upgrade?
Postby DJIntegr8 » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:27 pm
Love the Veloflex on my TB14s. These are 23s - they are quite plush anyway because of the wide rim and supple sidewalls, but if you can fit 25s I would suggest those.denwol wrote:That seems like a good idea. Should I go 23 or 25s? Any real difference?TDC wrote:Treat yourself to some really good 320 tpi tyres. Brown sidewall veloflex masters look great on TB14 rims.denwol wrote:Thank you all,
You have saved me hundreds + probable disappointment.
I will stick with what I have:)
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Whats that little round thing on the valve stem?DJIntegr8 wrote:
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